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  • #1616358
    ham
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    And i agree ian, if she was as good as the group 1s suggest shed have won those easily enough and ensured her rating merited an entry, she wont win at the weekend either..

    #1616360
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    “…enable won it twice? So unless she won it at 2, she must have won it at 4…”

    Agreed, ham. She won it twice: in 2017 at the age of 3 and in 2018 at the age of 4. But not beyond 4+, which is my point…

    As to the argument that some G1’s are weaker than others, I totally agree with that view. However, 9 wins in G1’s is always greater than 0 wins which a combined total of 5 runners!…

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    Will you be backing her, Turkoman, in her alternative lesser engagement?

    She’s needs to win that half the track if she’s to embarrass France Galop.

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    Backed Alpinista after her York victory and still think she has a good chance.

    Have added Westover at 11/1. Maybe the three year olds are not a good crop but his demolition job in the Irish Derby was eye catching and at the price I am prepared to find out if it was a fluke or not. He is well drawn, gets the allowances and I think he will be OK on the very soft ground, inexplicably watered by the authorities.

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    I’ll say one thing, the fact it’s not the best Arc quality wise ever means it’s one of the most fascinating.

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    #1616369
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    One of the most difficult betting heats of the year

    There’s not a horse in the race without a few doubts whether it be trip, draw, ground, current form

    #1616373
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    “Will you be backing her, Turkoman, in her alternative lesser engagement?”

    Nope.

    But that’s not the issue, ID. Even if she did made the entry here I would not have supported her. My only argument is that, based on her record, the mare deserves to be in this race. From an international interest it make sense. Nothing more, nothing less….

    BTW, I have not suggested or implied that this is a weak assembly of runners. In my view, it’s a strong, evenly matched field. All sorts of G1 winners including the defending champion…

    #1616375
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    Agree regarding the quality turk, its as strong an arc as theres been for a few years, probably since peak enable IMO, theres just no standout name, but i mean of alpinista wins, she had to be mentioned in that category, theres 7 horses rated 120 or above and a few just a tad below

    Its most definitely stronger than last year

    #1616382
    ham
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    Wonder who will pickup the vadeni ride now, given that soumi will be arrested at some point this afternoon…

    #1616449
    mickeyjp
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    Surely its all about who handles the ground the best. If luxembourg delivers close to his capabilities he wins. If not could be yet another huge price winner of the arc which is not a good look. I hope luxembourg wins but i suspect a real grinder might. Very unsatisfactory for such an iconic race.

    #1616522
    ham
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    3mm overnight, 3.9 on the stick, dry day, some forecast tonight, dont think this is going to be as desperate as forecasted…

    #1616572
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    Ryan Moore described the ground as soft. Could’ve been worse.

    #1616577
    ham
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    Yeah if they dont get too much tonight, the likelyhood of it being slightly better than soft is high, heavy/bog doesnt look likely now

    All the more interesting!

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    “Ryan Moore described the ground as soft. Could’ve been worse.”

    Chaudenay was 12.68 seconds slow for 1m7f – 0.85 seconds per furlong.

    Most recent going stick data I’ve seen: “2400m GP: 6.7 2000m GP: 6.7 1600m GP: 6.6 1400m NP: 6.7 1000m LD: 7.”

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    #1616583
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    They looked to be going pretty slow in the Chaudenay pace wise.

    #1616584
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    I tend to try and go against the grain in this race and it has been successful on occasion, particularly when there’s been a lot of rain about.

    Mendocino beat Torquator Tasso in the Grosser Preis von Baden last time and stick with him due to the descrepancy in price which sees my selection at 25/1 e/w 6 places 1/5 odds Skybet. Two respectable runs over course and distance earlier this season and he’s a winner in soft ground.

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    “They looked to be going pretty slow in the Chaudenay pace wise.”

    Royallieu was slower – 14.96 seconds slow for 1m6f.

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