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In Swoop aint a bad ew shout having done a bit of research (20mm rain Thursday onwards forecast and trainer wanting it soft) so added at 25s ew. You may have underestimated Enable’s ability there if the overseas European Challenge turns out to be not much cop.
Enable and In Swoop could be the ones on the predicted ground.
Mtoto one of my total favourite ever horses with his very unusual running style. Gobsmacked when Tony bin won.
Racing post this morning going at Longchamp is very soft after a weekend of heavy rain.
I see this shout Darren, if there is a big improver in the field, I think it would be her. Just 5 runs so far and both defeats in races not run to suit. A Strongly run 12F should bring out more improvement.
How about the ground conditions though? What do you think?
Masses to find to win an Arc, but I don’t think horses like Sottsass, Persian King, Stradivarius, Telecaster, Way to Paris, Mogul, Japan, In Swoop are good enough to win an Arc for various reasons.
Serpentine if he goes on his Derby win would have a chance, but we could easily make a negative now for both Enable and Love, so if there is a shock, and Raabihah goes in the conditions, she might be it.
No bet yet
As always the draw is critical. I can’t seer Enable winning if she gets a double figure draw. You need to be an exceptional horse to win from a double figure draw and at 6 now, I’m not sure she’s that good to do that.
Love might not even run I think.
Frenchy the forecast for saturday morning is 20mm of rain and that on top of the rain what is forecast during the week. I can see heavy going and a host of horses pulled out, with love in there as well.
The money has come in for Strad today with best price now only 8/1.
It’ll be a real shame if it’s really heavy. Could throw up something weird but Enable should handle most soft going okay.
Not even sure that’s real money Mike. Bookies scared of a massive Enable gamble and trying to attract some other money!
Stradivarius won’t beat Enable and therefore won’t win the Arc. Not even sure he’ll get near the top 3 personally.
Horses in wider draws have won Arcs when the ground is soft or worse. On decent ground a single figure draw would be a big help.
I’m glad to see that In Swoop stands his ground at this point. I think he
looks like the type to take a hand in this at the finish, he has the pace
to hold his position and he has a real finishing kick. Came with a late
swoop to win the Deutsches Derby and finishing best of all when taking 2nd
behind Mogul in the Grand Prix de Paris earlier this month. He’s won in
the soft and it looks to me that Longchamp suits his style of running.In Swoop 20/1 Bet365
That’s a misleading comment if you are quoting what the Racing Post wrote today.
The ground conditions are not necessarily the factor on the draw.
12/15 winners have been drawn 8 or lower.
The exceptions were very very good horses and second in the market, Treve, Golden Horn and Dalakhani
If we include Workforce as one of those very good horses, the stat is
11/15 have been drawn 6 or lower.
The ground conditions is not the factor here in the draw stat.
If you’re drawn 7 or higher you need to be exceptionally good to win the Arc
I’ll take a chance on In Swoop too. Was going to enjoy it without a bet, but I can see the appeal with him, though best I could get was 18’s. Won’t bother with an EW here, I’ll go for the win.
Just took 16’s NRNB
Not sure my inner ‘Cringeometer’ could take Dettori and “his girl” winning this tbf.
At least Gosden won’t be there to explain to us yet again why he couldn’t be bothered to get her fit for the Eclipse.
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lol Tatling
Did you see the photo of him kneeling beside her after her win last time…….nauseating. One of the most cringeworthy things I’ve ever seen.
Ps, I’ll probably delete this in five mins, as just the type of comment that’ll derail the thread, but I feel better for getting it off my chest.
Yes I saw it. Pretty sickening. Moving on as you say….
I thought Stradivarius ran a nice trial, and will surely get a stronger pace with Coolmore running 5. Can see him placing a-la Order of St George, Westerner.
Can see Serpentine potentially haring off with back-to-Epsom tactics, but surely they won’t let him get away this time.
Mogul chucked a spanner in the works winning so well last time, Love could be another Zarkava, Persian King could be anything over 12f if staying, Enable would need kicking out the first three you’d think.
One I am curious about is Japan at a price. Owner weighed Coolmore in heavily wanting a horse called Japan to run in this race. I thought it bizarre Moore selected him over Magical lto. If he chose him over Love this time……hmmm, but surely not. Spider Sense is tingling though I must admit, and a return to the form of smashing Crystal Ocean would put him bang there, arguably ahead of Enable.
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Demuro takes Sottsass instead of Raabihah. Guyon takes the ride on Raabihah.
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