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    Mike007
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    I see they’re letting Enable run next season to try for 3 again. Big ask for a 6 yr old filly.

    So am on Logician 16s ew instead.

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    greenasgrass
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    Good choice Mike, he looks a belter and well up to carrying the full weight.

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    darren83
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    MILITARY MARCH 66/1 Power

    Think he win derby if that happens price not be as it is and even if get soft ground on arc day he cope with fine to he best middle distance prospect 3yo seen at 2 this year

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    KrisKris
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    I agree with Logician, I was discussing him at the weekend as my idea of the winner. Most people I speak to seem to share this view.

    The other horse I like at this stage is Mogul at 40-1.

    I haven’t bet either, as it’s just too early for me really, but these are the two which I had in mind.

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    Frenchy15
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    Think JG has a track record of not clashing his stars though. If Logician is good, he won’t run in the Arc next season against Enable.

    Like the Mogul shout though, I have him antipost for the Derby currently. Might add him at 40s for the Arc then.

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    jackh1092jackh1092
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    I would say that will come down to the owner more than JG Frenchy, given they are both owned by Juddmonte…

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    Frenchy15
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    ah yes, they are. Even more a reason then that Logician won’t run. I can see the comments now….

    September End 2020…………. either 1) “Logician has had a slight setback and we’ll take him straight to the breeders cup” or 2) “Logician showed enough speed last time, that we think he’ll be very well suited to the 10F Champions Stakes at Ascot”

    We know it’s true!

    #1470557
    Mike007
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    Some are assuming Enable will be the same class animal at the age of 6. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just isn’t as good. And Logician will be better next season I think and he was pretty good in this one.

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    Frenchy15
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    Yeah but it’s obvious to say if Enable doesn’t come back in decent form and loses the chance to win the Arc then Logician should run. I wouldn’t like to bet that however. There’s not much reason why Enable can’t stay in form though? She’d have to be in poor form for them to run Logician. Any sort of half decent form and they’ll run her and not him.

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    darren83
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    Jack and Frenchy any views on my bet in arc

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    Mike007
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    If Enable is in half decent form Frenchy and ends up 5th favourite say, and Logician ends up favourite I don’t see a reason why they would only run the 5th favourite and take out the favourite for such a top race myself.

    Interesting views from all though. :good:

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    Frenchy15
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    The reason would be that Khalid Abdullah is 82years old, a proper sports man, been in the racing game since forever and wants to make history with Enable winning the Arc three times.

    Logician can win it in 2021. It is fascinating though, because I do rate Logician and he clearly looks like he’s going to be campaigned over all the big 12F races next season, but I just think they’ll find some reason come late September.

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    Frenchy15
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    If Military March was trained by someone other than SBS I’d be pretty keen on him! He’s beautifully bred and looks like he could be better at 3. I’m just not a fan of SBS these days. He has the profile of a Derby winner though and achieved more than my antipost Mogul on RPRs already, so I wouldn’t put anyone off taking 28s for the Derby and 66s for the Arc.

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    jackh1092jackh1092
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    so I wouldn’t put anyone off taking 28s for the Derby and 66s for the Arc.

    I would. I think you could easily wait until March/April and find out if he makes it through the winter 100%. You might also find out if he’s been switched to run at Meydan lol.

    He is entered on Saturday though, so if he runs in that or in France perhaps the above can be scratched!

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