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Could someone tell me the date of the last declarations for the KG when ante post prices became early prices ?
I’m pretty sure at the two day stage it turns to day of the race betting, ie if the horse doesn’t run you get your money back
Thanks Judge and yes I’m also pretty sure a Grade 1 chase declations are 2 days (the same as flat races), so was the last declaration stage this morning (24th) at 10am ?
Strange race for me The King George. Biggest race of the season bar The Grand National, The Gold Cup, and The Champion Hurdle, but just always a race I like to enjoy without a proper bet, only had two, maybe three since I started.
This year is no different, and it’ll be a small go on Tea For Two each way, for interest.
Really looking forward to it, and hope it lives up to the billing.
Tim, it was yesterday 10am
Thank you VTC, much appreciated.
This race revolves around Thistlecrack, and whether he’s fully fit. If so, he’ll take all the beating. I doubt Tizzard would take such a big risk in running him if that wasn’t the case so I’m willing to be a backer at 7/1, in the hope he has recovered sufficiently from the hurdles run last month. Might Bite is hugely talented but a bit of a nutter so can’t back at 11/8, he might fall or do something stupid. BDM needs heavy ground and although pretty wet today and tomorrow, it might dry out enough come Tuesday. Plus he’s never run at Kempton so a concern there. Whisper is a danger but I’d have preferred Russell on board and the others aren’t good enough. Thistlecrack for me for a storybook victory.
This year is no different, and it’ll be a small go on Tea For Two each way, for interest.
Not a bad choice considering the trainer is in very rare form with 4 wins and a second from their last five runners – the horse runs well at the track, was unlucky not to be placed last year and Lizzie Kelly confidence will be high after the race she rode from the front to win on One Of Us in the first at Ascot yesterday. I just hope the ground doesn’t get too soft for him – currently Good to Soft (Soft in places).
This race revolves around Thistlecrack, and whether he’s fully fit. If so, he’ll take all the beating. I doubt Tizzard would take such a big risk in running him if that wasn’t the case so I’m willing to be a backer at 7/1, in the hope he has recovered sufficiently from the hurdles run last month. Might Bite is hugely talented but a bit of a nutter so can’t back at 11/8, he might fall or do something stupid. BDM needs heavy ground and although pretty wet today and tomorrow, it might dry out enough come Tuesday. Plus he’s never run at Kempton so a concern there. Whisper is a danger but I’d have preferred Russell on board and the others aren’t good enough. Thistlecrack for me for a storybook victory.
Agree regarding TC 7/1 is a crazy crazy price, ive mentioned ive went in on him 3 times but ive went in numerous times again e/w,
Think TC will have to better last year’s performance to win this year – not sure you can really truly believe what the Tizzards say now about him because they were categoric that TC was fit to run his race at Newbury and we all know what happened there.
Had they come out and said he is as fit as we can get him bearing in mind the injury he had and that the KG is the main early season goal, so he will come on for a race I think people may have been more inclined to forgive Newbury.
If he is the same horse as last year then 7s is 3 or 4 points too big but I think he might have to put up a career best to win and with his free going nature and two others that like to dictate the pace it could well pay to be a hold up horse – Fox Norton is the unknown quantity of this field, we know he stays 2m4f so another 4f is not beyond the realms of possibility and if he does stay we know he is the quickest in the field, roughly the same price as TC if I had to take a chance out of the two I would go for FN (although more rain wouldn’t be welcome).
I agree with that.
I too wouldn’t have been so worried about Thistlecrack’s Newbury run had the vibes from the Tizzard camp not been so strong. And he blew up in almost spectacular fashion there. As marvellous a chaser he is, there is still that niggling doubt that he didn’t win the hardest of King George’s last year and can’t afford not to be 100% this time around.
I think when you take that all into account 7/1 is about right.
Agreed. Was Thistlecrack ever really that good anyway?
Career highlights – a dreadful World Hurdle, beating old man Cue Card in this last year and being outchiselled by a horse who dropped dead after the line.
Might Bite’s body of work towers above Thistlecrack’s best on the clock.
and being outchiselled by a horse who dropped dead after the line.
is that comment really necessary?
I was a big Thistlecrack fan and the thing I’d find most worrying had I backed him here is that Tizz says there’s very little between him and Fox Norton. FN is another I like and I backed him for the QM (a race he should have won, I think, but not one of great quality). But FN is not a top class horse in my book and I’d have expected Thistlecrack in his prime to be clear of him in his trainer’s eyes by quite some margin.
I’d like to see Thistlecrack back to his best but LS might be right – it could be he was overrated, though I’d hold and see what he does here before deciding. I thought his Newbury run was fine. Tizz is getting a rep for not knowing when his horses are fit and I think he blundered there. What I’m not convinced about is that he finds much for pressure.
Tuesday will tell but I think we’ll be hailing a new star, one way or another – Bristol De Mai or Might Bite.
Thistlecrack has had one bad race and everyones jumping ship, i think you can forgive one run, always the chance he was rushed back and thats my only concern, the talent and abillity is there and 7/1 is generous, i dont usually back heavily in this race, but im well into this e/w
Cue card was not racing like an “old man” last year either he was a grade 1 animal rated into the 170s
The last comment was just plain stupid, not even going to answer that.
You honestly give Whisper a 13% chance of winning? I wouldnt back him with stolen money.
That’s my point Tommy, Hendo’s comments are all about one thing – he doesn’t see further than Mite Bite because he has much the better chance – doesn’t concern him who’s value… You might not be “talking value” either, but value is the only thing that should matter to a punter. Yes I do give Whisper a 13% chance.
My 100% Book for Good-soft:
38% Might Bite 13/8
20% Bristol De Mai 4/1
14% Fox Norton 6/1
13% Whisper 13/2
11% Thistlecrack 8/1
3.5% Tea For Two 28/1
0.25% Double Shuffle 400/1
0.25% Traffic Fluide 400/1
100%Value Is Everything
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