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    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    According to the bookies it’s about 2% difference between the two’s chances of winning

    Yes, there is only 2% between them with bookies, Nathan. But when we are talking about outsiders… “2%” is a third of the 6% (16/1 Hydrangea) and half of the 4% (25/1 Rostropovich) so in this instance 2% is fairly big “difference” between the two’s chances.

    value is everything
    #1361286
    ham
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    The rain hasnt come, if he isnt running when its good to firm why does he need to have a look, just delaying a massive rule 4, frustrating…. will they actually pull him? … AO digging his nails in no doubt.

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    hein bollowhein bollow
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    This Oppenheimer seems to be an old, greedy fart, and I really don’t hope he will urge Gosden to run Cracksman, which was already the wrong decision in his previous 2 races.
    Hopefully Gosden will finally take a stand and choose the right option to pull him out!

    #1361303
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Suspect not pulling Cracksman out yet is more to do with what happened before the Dante. Gosden pulled Cracksman out there because he didn’t want to have a hard race on testing ground (might not have recovered in time for the Derby)… Only for actual ground conditions to prove nowhere near as testing. No doubt Cracksman’s connections regretted not running in the Dante. Not only did it cost the then lightly raced Cracksman probable victory on the day… but arguably lost the Derby because of a lack of experience.

    If Ascot were to have an unexpected downpour between now and off time, then connections would regret taking him out too soon. So although frustrating/difficult for punters I can understand them leaving the decision until later in the day.

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    #1361320
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    I’ve backed Poets Word 11/4 with a 5/2 saver on his stable companion.
    Also a little @ 5/6 with Sky for either of Stoutes to win.
    …And a 35/1 saver on Salouen, just in case he gets free on the lead.

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    #1361336
    nwalton
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    OUT

    #1361342
    Mike007
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    Close call but Crystal Ocean for me. I think over the distance he may outstay Poets Word. :good:

    #1361348
    buckers
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    Hydrangea each way for me here, she looks a couple of points too big for me

    #1361355
    stevecautionstevecaution
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    As soon as I saw the odds this morning I knew it hadn’t rained. Oh well.

    Crystal Ocean for me now. Coronet to follow him home.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1361360
    hein bollowhein bollow
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    Very well done Johnny G. as Prudence has prevailed.
    Cracksman has better things to do, he will return in the Arc stronger than ever!

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    KrisKris
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    Salouen at 25-1 to spring a shock here, it looks worth a risk each way

    #1361363
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    There is a weakness in Cracksman’s armour now. He now has to avoid fast ground and has had two disappointments to bounce back from.

    Being 7/1 for the Arc tells its own story and whatever wins today may pass him in the market for Longchamp as well.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1361367
    Mike007
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    Wow. That was close. Good race.

    #1361368
    ham
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    Likely confirms it was no fluke destroying cracksman.

    #1361369
    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Close finish and didn’t end up a betting race for me, but good to see Poet’s Word eating the 1m4 up, always have thought he would be very effective over it!

    Twitter: Jackh1092
    Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!

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