Juvenile Hurdlers 2012/13

[Bachelors Hall]

Loyal Master 3/3

Rite Of Passage

3rd Baring Bingham Novices’ Hurdle (G1), Cheltenham 2010
The Young Master 5/2

Scolardy

1st Triumph Hurdle (G1), Cheltenham 2002
Pass The Time 4/2

Montana Moss

3rd Champion 4YO Hurdle, Punchestown 1979*
Camrock Star 2/1

Houston Dynimo

1st Novices’ Hurdle, Carlisle 2011
Golden Acorn 4/1

Fox Chapel

2nd Handicap Hurdle (119), Kempton 1994
Friends Of Ama Gi 3/1

Nanarch

1st Maiden Hurdle, Ballinrobe 1993
Khazium 2/2

Fongoli

4th Wensleydale Juvenile Hurdle, Wetherby 2009

*Also 5/5 with Sir Rembrandt

Sires

Camrock Star – Rock Of Gibraltar (7)
Golden Acorn – Ad Valorem (1)
Khazium – Kheleyf (1)

[darren83]

Bachellor what you think of performance by MC Vicar on sunday

Tuffers do you own the horse in Poetic Power only just seen your posts on him and just to say good luck with horse as well.

[Tuffers]

Bachellor what you think of performance by MC Vicar on sunday

Tuffers do you own the horse in Poetic Power only just seen your posts on him and just to say good luck with horse as well.

Hi Darren

I thought McVicar put in a solid display. He travelled and jumped well and showed his ability to handle testing conditions. In truth though the opposition didn’t make it much of a test for him.

Thanks for the good wishes re Poetic Power. My brother and I run the syndicate that owns him. He is very much a work in progress as he has been very keen and we are teaching him to settle. Paddy Brennan thought he settled much better on Sunday than on his debut but until he encounters fast ground he has no chance of staying 2m at the moment. That’s why we are just giving him three runs to get a handicap mark and then we will give him the winter off.

It can be very easy to forget what a shock it is for these three year olds to go from running on summer ground over 1m to 1m4f with 8 or 9 stone on their backs to running over 2m including jumping hurdles on bad ground with 11 or 12 stone on their backs. Only the toughest manage to handle that transition.

[Tuffers]

On a related issue, does anyone know when juvenile handicaps start. I know there aren’t any before the end of the year.

[Bachelors Hall]

Bachellor what you think of performance by MC Vicar on sunday

I can’t really expand on what Tuffers has said. He won as a 1/3 shot should do and demonstrated that he jumps well and goes on winter ground. I’d still have Handazan ahead of him but Mcvicar hasn’t done much wrong so far.

On a related issue, does anyone know when juvenile handicaps start. I know there aren’t any before the end of the year.

In 2010 and 2011, the first handicap took place at Musselburgh in the middle of February and last season, the Fred Winter was the first juvenile handicap of the season. I’d imagine that with milder weather, we might get one earlier.

Isolla Bella 1/1

Grumeti

1st Anniversary 4-Y-O Hurdle (G1), Aintree 2012
Ironically 3/2

Bangalore

2nd Finale Juvenile Hurdle (G1), Chepstow 1999
Allusive Power 1/1

Font Of Wisdom

1st Maiden Hurdle, Ballinrobe 2012
Arte De Calcio 2/2

Magical Memoir

2nd Handicap Hurdle (119), Galway 2011
Whipcrackaway 1/1

Louisville Lip

3rd Novice’s Handicap Hurdle (116), Fairyhouse 2011
Juno The Muffinman 1/1

Know The Law

3rd Hcp Hurdle (119), Kempton 2009*
Athletic 2/2

Sweet Memories

2nd Conditions Hurdle, Down Royal 2006
Acht 1/1

Alraune

6th Juvenile Hurdle, Stratford 2006
Golden Jubilee American bred, no hurdling relatives

*Also 3/1 with Hawkes Run

Sires

Allusive Power – Verglas (2)
Athletic – Doyen (2)
Whipcrackaway – Whipper (1)
Acht – Big Shuffle (1)

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Dovils Date 2/1

Hollow Tree

1st Finale Juvenile Hurdle (G1), Chepstow 2012
Greyhope 2/1

Davoski

2nd Dovecote Novices’ Hurdle (G2), Kempton 1999
One Million 2/1

Lethal Weapon

1st Durkan Homes Juvenile Hurdle (G1), Leopardstown 2010
Giveherachance 3/1

Beat The Retreat

1st Summit Juvenile Hurdle (Listed), Lingfield 1984
Geanie Mac 2/1

King Ozzy

3rd Handicap Hurdle (115), Southwell 2011
Forster Street 2/1

Easy Wonder

3rd Conditions Hurdle, Dundalk 1995
Asteroid Belt 2/1

Blue Streak

1st Claiming Hurdle, Plumpton 2003
Captain Baldwin 3/1

Reedling

3rd Juvenile Hurdle, Fontwell 1988

Sires

One Million – Dubai Destination (3)
Forster Street – Acclamation (3)
Captain Baldwin – Dubai Destination (3)
Giveherachance – Bachelor Duke (2)

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Alborz 1/1

Hunterview

1st Scottish County Hurdle (130), Musselburgh 2011
Rayadour 2/1

Rayshan

1st Lanzarote Hurdle (125), Carlisle 2006
Dollar Bill 3/5

Royal Bonsai

1st Summit Juvenile Hurdle (G2), Doncaster 2011
Asparella 2/1

Pacha Du Polder

1st Conditions Hurdle, Enghien 2011
Feb Thirtyfirst 1/1

Crookhaven

7th Triumph Hurdle (G1), Cheltenham 2007
Cropley 2/1

Nishamira

2nd Handicap Hurdle (129), Warwick 1998
Val D’Allier 3/3

Jurancon II

1st Handicap Hurdle (113), Cheltenham 2002*
Electrician 3/1

Great Marquess

3rd West Yorkshire Hurdle (G2), Wetherby 1995
While You Wait 2/1

South Leinster

2nd Novices’ Hurdle, Newcastle 2011
Sir Fredlot 2/2

Waldvogel

1st Novices’ Hurdle, Musselburgh 2011
Johnny Splash 3/2

Best Grey

1st Handicap Hurdle (107), Galway 2001
Coup De Grace 1/1

Fair Attitude

7th Prix Cambaceres (3yo, G1), Auteuil 2007**

*Also 5/4 with L’Ami, Innox and Kelami
**Also 2/1 with Lasting Grace, 1st Prix Wild Monarch 1993

Sires

Cropley – Galileo (11)
Dollar Bill – Medicean (4)
Alborz – Dubai Destination (3)
Rayadour – Azamour (3)
Sir Fredlot – Choisir (3)
While You Wait – Whipper (1)

[Bachelors Hall]

Dont Take Me Alive 4/2

Royal Gait

1st Champion Hurdle (G1), Cheltenham 1992*
Kashmir Peak 4/1

Beldale Star

2nd New Year’s Day Hurdle (listed), Windsor 1990
Rhyme Royal 1/1

Secret Edge

5th Champion 4yo Hurdle (G1), Punchestown 2012
Feeling Good 3/4

Lady Arpel

2nd Champion 4yo Hurdle (G1), Punchestown 1996
Last Zak 4/3

Saibot

2nd Galway Hurdle (G2), Galway 1995
Latenfast 2/1

Flying North

1st Novices’ Hurdle, Catterick 1997
Kian’s Joy 1/1

Moonfleet

1st Juvenile Hurdle, Stratford 2005
Blue Top 3/2

Mannyman

7th 4yo Maiden Hurdle, Limerick 2005

*Also 3/2 with Contraband

Sires

Kashmir Peak – Tiger Hill (3)
Feeling Good – Shamardal (1)

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Diamond Pro 4/1

Sossus Vlei

3rd Novices’ Hurdle, Newbury 2002
Our Conor 1/1

Gidam Gidam

1st Handicap Hurdle (124), Market Rasen 2007
Raven’s Claw 3/1

Humbel

2nd Jamestown Gold Cup Novices’ Hurdle (G2), Fairyhouse 1997
Vaxalco 5/2

Talathath

1st Handicap Hurdle (120), Worcester 1997
Crouching Harry 2/1

Train Of Thought

1st 4YO Hurdle, Galway 2012
Shabra Emperor 4/3

Corniche

2nd Handicap Hurdle (115), Uttoxeter 2000
Stay In My Heart 4/3

Cashel Blue

1st Handicap Hurdle (113), Chepstow 2009
Dayrina 1/1

Galilean

3rd Maiden Hurdle, Kilbeggan 2008
Casual Creeper 4/1

Lion Hunter

4th Introductory Novices Hurdle, Newbury 2004

Sires

Stay In My Heart – Medicean (4)
Raven’s Claw – Tiger Hill (3)
Crouching Harry – Tiger Hill (3)
Diamond Pro – Diamond Green (1)
Vaxalco – Dom Alco (1)
Dayrina – Whipper (1)
Casual Creeper – One Cool Cat (1)

[Bachelors Hall]

That was a highly impressive debut performance from Our Conor. Won with any amount in hand and one would be very hard pressed to name a juvenile who’s jumped better this season.

[robnorth]

Bachelors Hall

What did you make of Dovils Date at Musselburgh? He looks a nice enough sort and came clear to win comfortably with a previous winner in second.

McCain’s juvenile bumper winner Vinstar should be worth looking out for if going hurdling next time. He won well at Carlisle last week.

Rob

[Tuffers]

That was a highly impressive debut performance from Our Conor. Won with any amount in hand and one would be very hard pressed to name a juvenile who’s jumped better this season.

I can only think of one

[Tuffers]

The entries have been made this morning for the first of Cheltenham’s Triumph Hurdle trials on Saturday. If they all stand their ground it should be a mouthwatering clash between the best juveniles seen out so far.

[Bachelors Hall]

Bachelors Hall

What did you make of Dovils Date at Musselburgh? He looks a nice enough sort and came clear to win comfortably with a previous winner in second.

McCain’s juvenile bumper winner Vinstar should be worth looking out for if going hurdling next time. He won well at Carlisle last week.

Rob

Hi Rob

I have to say that when I looked at the race beforehand, I didn’t think a great deal of the field so I don’t rate the bare form too highly. Furthermore, I felt his jumping left something to be desired although he should improve for the experience and may well be better suited by going left handed. Nevertheless, the way he quickened clear after the last was very likable and I imagine he’d have little problem defying a penalty in a similar contest. Rod Millman did have him earmarked as a hurdler and does suggest that he handles soft ground so he’s potentially smart. I somewhat doubt he’ll be quite up to Cheltenham standard but I could well be proven wrong as soon as Saturday.

I must admit that I’ve not given that much attention to the bumpers as one can’t really ascertain when these horses will see a hurdle. I do agree however that Vinstar looked promising under a penalty.

That was a highly impressive debut performance from Our Conor. Won with any amount in hand and one would be very hard pressed to name a juvenile who’s jumped better this season.

I can only think of one

I should qualify my assessment by saying that Our Conor is the best

soft ground

jumper I’ve seen this season

The entries have been made this morning for the first of Cheltenham’s Triumph Hurdle trials on Saturday. If they all stand their ground it should be a mouthwatering clash between the best juveniles seen out so far.

It certainly looks like a potential cracker. Vasco Du Ronceray and Far West would be the ones I’m most looking forward to although Tom George apparently thinks a lot of Roc D’Apsis

[Bachelors Hall]

Tomorrow’s maiden at Bangor looks the strongest of its sort this season with Moidore and Counsel representing the Aintree form, highly rated Suraj attempting to improve on his Haydock debut and a nice looking newcomer in Take Two set to line up.

Moidore 2/2

Border Castle

1st Scottish Champion Hurdle (140 G2), Ayr 2008*
Za’Lan 3/4

Noland

1st Supreme Novice’s Hurdle, Cheltenham 2006
Counsel 3/2

Big Moment

5th RSA Novices’ Hurdle (G1), Cheltenham 2004**
Take Two 1/1

My Petra

2nd Doncaster Mares Hurdle (G2), Doncaster 2010
Dropzone 2/2

Dabiroun

1st Fred Winter Hurdle (124 G3), Cheltenham 2005***
Suraj 2/1

Sarteano

4th Monksfield Nivices’ Hurdle (G2), Navan 2008
Watt Broderick 2/3

Medicinal

5th Conditions Hurdle, Fairyhouse 2007
Bells Of Berlin 1/1

Chord

2nd Juvenile Hurdle, Huntingdon 2008

*Also 4/4 with Chief Yeoman
**Also 3/3 with Callisto Moon
***Also 2/1 with Mississippi River

Sires

Moidore – Galileo (11)
Suraj – Galileo (11)
Bells Of Berlin – Pivotal (9)
Take Two – Act One (3)
Watt Broderick – Hawk Wing (3)
Counsel – Dansili (2)

[Tuffers]

A pretty decent performance by Counsel there and in a good time too. That may prove to be particularly strong form.

[Bachelors Hall]

Indeed it was a likable performance, particularly as he ran quite green throughout.

Tomorrow’s Ludlow contest centers around Bangor winner Tidal Way and Nicky Henderson’s second juvenile of the season in Amoralist. Waving could be of some interest on his breeding given his one good flat run whilst French flat winner Vasco D’Ycy is something of an unknown quantity whom connections will be hoping to fare better than stablemate Chendiyr.

In The Crowd 4/3

Fingal Bay

1st Challow Hurdle (G1), Newbury 2011
Sakhee Bob 5/3

Prominent Profile

3rd Mersey Novices’ Hurdle (G2), Aintree 1999
Waving 1/1

Fait Le Jojo

1st Handicap Hurdle (132), Ascot 2002*
Marshall Art 3/3

Porticcio

1st Maiden Hurdle, Killarney 2009**
Tidal Way 1/1

Indian Groom

5th Fred Winter Handicap Hurdle (134 G3), Cheltenham 2009
Arte Del Calcio 2/2

Magical Memoir

2nd Handicap Hurdle (119), Galway 2011
Khan Of Khans 1/1

Esporao

1st Novices’ Hurdle, Ludlow 2011
Leonards Pride 2/1

Knightsbridge Lad

1st Maiden Hurdle, Ludlow 1999
River Valley 2/1

Richie Bob

3rd Novice Hurdle, Carlisle 2011
Amoralist 2/1

Mac’s Elan

3rd Novices’ Hurdle, Market Rasen 2005
Vasco D’Ycy 1/1

Sun Des Mottes

7th Novices’ Hurdle, Hereford 2011

*Also 6th in Anniversary Hurdle
**Also 4/2 with Ivors Guest

Sires

Waving – High Chaparral (13)
Amoralist – Tobougg (7)
In The Crowd – Haafhd (4)
Sakhee Bob – Sakhee (4)

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