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There seems to be money for Crossed Baton now that the Blue Riband Trial has cut up quite badly. He opened at 6/1 behind Chilean but then drifted out to 10/1 before all the dropouts among the fancied ones led to a scenario where Crossed Baton is now 7/4 Fav with James Cook, likely to need the race tomorrow, a 3/1 shot.
I can’t understand why more people don’t get an early bet on when they have a horse they fancy to do well. Yes, sometimes they don’t run but sitting on 10/1 is so much better than scrambling for 7/4.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Not a bad looking entry for the Sandown Classic Trial on Friday. Several of the absentees from the Blue Riband Trial are entered and jocked up for the race that has tended to be less of a guide this past generation.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I fancy My Lord And Master to run a big race tomorrow at 9/2.
Couldn’t have been more impressive last time at Nottingham – winning by 6 lengths eased down. Devastating turn of foot but stayed strongly in that. Surely goes well tomorrow.
I’ve had a small play for the Derby at 66s too.
MOM- he was the one i was interested in at the prices, but with Epsom being a difficult track to be certain a horse will handle i decided to leave it! Good Luck!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!SteveCaution – I can’t understand why more people don’t get an early bet on when they have a horse they fancy to do well. Yes, sometimes they don’t run but sitting on 10/1 is so much better than scrambling for 7/4.
Steve, you can’t get much on Antepost so if you want a decent bet you have to wait until full declarations and markets to form.
I’m just a small player Kev, so it’s different for me.
I would have thought that even a small bet at 10/1 was worth having as a start on the race for bigger players though. It surely takes less of a stake at the lower odds to then win the same amount?
The bookies are shysters advertising odds that they are not willing lay to any decent bet. They have enough in their favour as things stand.
Peedie Baws, as they say in Glasgow.
I remember when I was running a betting shop a few guys from the rigs wanted to get an early bet on a horse of Luca Cumani’s called Jazz. The opposition had offered them 4/7 but they wanted Evens. It was a Nursery Handicap and I couldn’t see how the horse would be odds on, so I offered them Evens. One punter roared out “That’s the way boy, I like a bookie with a bit of spunk about him”, a statement that raised eyebrows in the shop and has stayed with me since. Within half an hour there was a steady queue for the Even money and I was more than a fair bit over my discretionary limit.
A sizeable crowd gathered to wait for the opening show and when the commentator revealed that Jazz was 7/4, my sweat was over. Unabashed they all queued up to put more money on Jazz at the bigger odds, as there was no BOG in those days. He kept drifting right out and they kept putting more on. Our liability was quite substantial by now but the horse hadn’t read the script, never showing with a chance and finishing in mid division.
Ah, the good old days, when bookies occasionally had a “Bit of spunk about them”
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Decent sized punters can’t get on, that’s the issue. So 10s simply wouldn’t be viable to them without large fuss. I’m generalising here I know but it’s why prices shorten a lot more once declarations are through.
Tidy story, even more so as it’s a Scottish one! (From Aberdeen).
I’ve backed James Cook now he’s hit 4/1 for the Epsom Trial this afternoon, after all if he’s anywhere near as good as his sister he’ll take a world of beating. I also had a smaller bet on Zabriskie at 18/1 as I feel if you back one of the Ballydoyle inmates you’d have to back both and he has had a wind op.
Thought my fella ran a good race but just couldn’t get there.
Up in trip for the derby could help and my 66s is probably still a tad large but it’s a big ask to beat the might of ballydoyle on the day.
I think that today’s Trial was actually quite a good race. I think the first 4 are all decent types going forward, that’s as good a Epsom Trial as we’ve had in recent years and I won’t give up on James Cook.
I have my doubts anything as good as Cracksman will come from today’s race.
The time of the race was pretty slow and I reckon there would have been a different result from a stronger pace.
I felt Crossed Baton was going to take it tidily at one stage but he’s scrambled home somewhat in the end.
There was confidence in the market for Dee Ex Bee today but he was put quite firmly in his place by Kew Gardens in last season’s Zetland Stakes, which is quite a stamina test for 2YO horses at the same 10F as today’s race. He looked today as if another couple of furlongs wouldn’t go wrong and I would be thinking of The Chester Vase if he were mine.
Frankie was quite positive and he stated that the colt has relatively small feet and would prefer faster ground than today’s. He rather oddly opined that the runner-up’s form was “rock solid” something that needs putting into context as a maiden winner coming in rated 89. The jockey reckoned Crossed Baton could be back for the Derby if it’s a sunny lead up to the race. You can back the winner at 33/1 for the Derby but I’d be worried he’d be outstayed if he goes for it. The French version looks a better option but the chance of getting suitable ground looks unlikely (France-twinned with The English Channel)
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I wasn’t overly taken by anything in that Trial today. The winner definitely has questions to answer surrounding the extra 2 furlongs of the Derby, although the much stronger pace of that race will ensure he doesn’t have to do the donkey work himself. He may get 12f, but whether the same will be true at the very highest of levels is another story. His pedigree wouldn’t instil much confidence on that front either. He looked a big horse though with plenty of condition, and has every right to improve from that run.
The horses in behind finished in a heap and I’ll be surprised if any serious Classic contenders emerge from today’s race.
It’ll be a proper test at Sandown today so I can see why the money’s coming for Sevenna Star but given what Chilean has actually achieved in comparison I don’t see why they aren’t closer to being joint favourites.
Hunting Horn was only given a hands and heels ride to win last time out on very bad ground but doesn’t look anything out of the ordinary whilst Ispolini looks like he’ll struggle in conditions to my eye. Stephensons Rocket and Come On Tier impressed in their maidens last season but both are relatively friendless in the market.
I can see the question marks about the trip for Chilean but the dam is out of a King George winner and was Group 2 placed over 12 furlongs in France so there’s plenty of stamina on that side of the pedigree. 7/2 with SkyBet looks the best bet in the race.
I was looking for one each-way to go with Chilean and that was between Come On Tier and Stephensons Rocket. I was just slightly worried about the Simcock form though and not overly keen on the fact he’s had wind surgery over the winter. The Rocket however was 2nd to Crossed Baton on debut here last summer and is by a proven classic sire in the shape of Teofilo. The stables rolling along OK, not brilliant form but not shocking and 11/1 looks fair.
Chilean 7/2 win (SkyBet)
Stephensons Rocket 11/1 e/w (Bet365)Is there an Epsom candidate in the race? Maybe not but neither did Epsom’s trial. These races could still work out as the season progresses without throwing up the Derby winner.
Don’t think we saw any Derby winners from either Trial.
Learnt nothing other than the Aidan O’Brien horses to strike off your list.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!French contender Rabdan was running at ParisLongchamp today. He was odds on but fluffed his lines completely in finishing 3rd. He had tried to make all but could only plod on at one pace as a couple of them picked up better than him.
A nine length winner last time but that was on Heavy ground and we see so many times that the form doesn’t stack up.
Pushed out to 50/1 I cannot see Rabdan bothering to come over. Despite his romp last time he was only rated 88 and that is miles from Derby standard form.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Just watched it. I wouldn’t say he plodded but he certainly lacked a change of gear. He was coming back at them on the line and needed far more use made of him. The Frankel’s need to be set alight further out as they’ll run though the line for you. I agree that he won’t be winning any Derby’s but I think he will still make up into a Group performer, perhaps over further….?
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