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Amedeo Modigliani looks likely to be miss the Epsom Classic, having had a setback more to follow
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Amedeo Modigliani looks likely to be miss the Epsom Classic, having had a setback more to follow
Gutted, had a decent bit on him at big prices. Need to completely re-access the market now.
Must admit i have had a bit of luck with some of the WH novelty bets the last year or so. No idea what type of monkeys they have working the prices out like
They have one at the moment for the Derby. Which Race Will Provide The Epsom Derby Winner is of interest.
The Ballysax to win @ 12/1
Nelson is best priced 14/1
The Pentagon 14/1
Delano Roosevelt 25/1Looks to me on value alone it warrants a bet
What odds do they have for the Guineas providing the winner Botchy?
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What odds do they have for the Guineas providing the winner Botchy?
Dante 2/1
2000 G 3/1
Chester Vase 5/1
Derrinstown 7/1
Any other 12/1
Ballysax 12/1
Dee Stakes 12/1
Irish 2000 14/1
Lingfield Trial 16/1
Epsom Trial 25/1
Cocked Hat 33/1Thanks very much for that Botchy.
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Crossed Baton and Photographer are both entered in the Epsom Derby Trial. It’s not a race that normally throws up anything with a big chance in the actual Derby itself, so it’s a bit of a negative in that respect. On the plus side Cracksman won it last year and went close on the big day and Gosden has an excellent record in the Blue Riband trial, winning the last three runnings. Gosden has other entries but none of them have jockeys named yet.
Frankie is listed as jocked up on BOTH Crossed Baton and Photographer, so something clearly has to give there. Wherever Frankie ends up the horse will have to be considered, as the trainer has won five of the last eleven runnings of the race.
Marytn Meade has recent French winner Chilean in the entries and James Cook looks interesting for O’Brien. Rabdan is entered for Andre Fabre and the Dubawi colt Ispolini looks potentially useful for the Godolphin camp.
Might be a decent trial if all those mentioned were to turn up next Wednesday. Current going at Epsom is given as good/good to soft in places. It will be a novelty if the race is run on decent ground!
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I am not liking the vibes for Saxon Warrior, so it’s time to find something else to back.
I’ve done Nelson for the St Leger as he seemed the one of O’Brien’s that would get a trip this season. He did get beat by Roaring Lion last year but that fellow was poor in the Craven and I don’t see him staying as well as Nelson.
Looking at the Derby, if we take Saxon Warrior out, it looks very open and horses like Masar and Gustav Klimt, who have looked good, seem unlikely stayers to me.
Rabdan ran away with his last race but it didn’t look much of a race and Epsom could be a totally different proposition ground wise and French horses don’t have a good record.
Kew Gardens was a bit disappointing on his return and Delano Roosevelt looks more likely than him for me after his run behind Nelson in the Ballysax.
Overall it’s looking a little weak this year and I feel Nelson may just about be up to winning this one with a little more improvement possible for reaching the full mile and a half trip.
He’s proven his well being it’s always a bonus when the Ballydoyle runners open with a win.
I’ve got my nephew primed to visit Coral and stick a few quid on, on my behalf at 25/1. That seems too big to leave alone with Saxon Warrior on the drift in the Guineas betting. This could be a better year for Frankel as a sire, and I see very few in the Derby betting who make appeal.
Nelson 25/1
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He’ll do well to get that price Stevie. 14’s is the best I can see. Still – like the way you’re thinking. I think he has a decent chance.
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He’ll do well to get that price Stevie. 14’s is the best I can see. Still – like the way you’re thinking. I think he has a decent chance.
I got the phone call this morning. My nephew was offered 12/1 in Corals, so the bet has been cancelled. Oddschecker are still showing 25/1 for Nelson with Corals and that’s a travesty.
Oddschecker is riddled with errors. Spelling mistakes lead to two different best prices quoted for the same horse eg Wootton and Wootoon. Earlier in the week we apparently had two races with the same runners, it was caused by the old John Porter being listed under the new AND old names. Is it too hard for Oddschecker to employ someone with a bit of nous to spot these balls-ups?
Anyway, I’ll wait for something else now. My worry is something with a bit more toe than Nelson, who seems better value at 20/1 for the Leger than 12/1 for Epsom.
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Without Parole looking good.
Tempted to go into this. 20/1 does seem right price to me though…
Any opinions?Paddy Power remain unchanged at 33/1, Viktors, presume its an oversight. Looks too big to me either way, I’ve gone in.
8-10F horse according to the above. Done it well, French guineas and Derby would be where I’d go.
If John Gosden says he doesn’t think Without Parole is a mile and a half horse, then I cannot see the colt running at Epsom. He usually takes a pragmatic view.
That looked an awful race to me today. It was virtually a match. Runner up Ostilio was clear second best coming into the race, as a three time runner rated 84.
A six length win but the runner up was 8 lengths clear of the rest. The third horse will get a very modest rating for his run.
I think that 20/1 for Epsom is awful value for Without Parole. There will be horses out tomorrow in the Blue Riband who will be better bets in all likelihood. The Guineas and recognised trials will come and go before Epsom and you feel others will shuffle in front of Without Parole and there’s that huge nag that the trainer just doesn’t see him as a 12F horse.
Looks a classic trap and we will then hear that he doesn’t run in a few weeks.
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Yeah, I did not read what Gosden said until now but definitely puts me off having a bet for the derby. Looks to me 10f will be his best trip.
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