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I don’t think there was anything dodgy with it, you could see they simply did not go fast enough and if you know the horse you’ll know that would never be run to suit.
His rider was pretty much in a ‘damned if he did and damned if he didn’t’ position over this one. The horse palpably needed holding up which was going to be tough enough without a decent pace from the off. The die was cast after a couple of furlongs when he’d pulled so hard.
Connections might reasonably have assumed there would be more than 5 runners in a contest like this and hence a decent pace.
Rob
Inclined to agree with the last two posters tbh. Did anyone see whether he got particularly worked up beforehand?
OK, I’ll speak……. The horse had a second in hand on the book, a whole fecking second. How on earth does the pace of the race give a horse more than a second’s relative disadvantage in a sprint like that? Why on earth would anyone be laying him in size at 100/30 on that basis?
Glenn
That second is only relevant in a truly run race over the full distance. With no pace on the race becomes a two and half/three furlong sprint.
In a race where’s there’s no pace on the rider of a horse who pulls hard has a choice either to let him stride on and hope he doesn’t burn himself out, ior to hope to settle him in behind and come with a run late. As I inferred in the first line of my previous post he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Presumably a significant proprotion of those involved in the market for the race were of much the same opinion.
If anyone is inclined to bet in a race like this they are better off supporting a horse which runs it’s race regardless rather than hoping things fall right, or if you are watching Glenn, apparently expecting them to fall right. Personally I wouldn’t touch these races with a barge pole for precisely the reasons detailed above.
We could have a rule where all runners are required to go hell for leather from the start. However, that isn’t the whole story of racing nor has it ever been or will it be. Horses are not machines that just need turning on and pointing in the right direction, they are powerful animals with a mind of their own. I try to fathom them in my own notes on northern jumpers, sometimes successfully and on some occasions they defeat me totally.
Still Glenn, I’m sure we look forward to you offering your services to Conor Dore next time as the horses jockey, and to see the Fyodor win by the second that you insist it should.
Incidentally, if Fyodor is meant to win, what are the connections of the other four meant to do? Just accept second place, or alternatively try to turn race factors to their advantage?
Rob
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firefox
I appreciate your view of the race and I see your interpretation of how it panned out.
However, I don’t think the horse was on a tight rein in the straight and was in fact encouraged fairly forcefully through a gap after the bend. This a classic way to ride a horse which needs to be held up. Ultimately Fyodor simply lacked the pace or the will power from that point to go past the leader. It retrospect Liam Keniry might well have rideen the race slightly differently.
That being said, other than letting the horse having its head and then hoping it hung on, in which case someone would no doubt have pasted him on here for doing just that, I can’t really see how else he could have ridden the race.
The drift in the betting could reasonably have been caused by someone taking a position that the horse was not favoured by the small field, and opposition then snowballed. That’s the sort of thing that has happened for years in betting markets and will continue to happen.Rob
I’d recommend those who are critical of Liam Keniry’s ride watch Fyodor’s last win at Great Leighs. This race might be as bent as a three bob note for all I know, but the way the jockey rode was very much par for the course for the horse.
Fyodor is an absolute nightmare of a beast.
I thought it was value on Betfair when it ran at Great Leighs on the 2 runs after its win there and I thought it was value at Lingfield in the claimer in question. The results – very "quiet" ride, disappointing and then dubious ride respectively
I also thought it was value at Southwell when it drifted like a barge last time, but decided I had already given enough to the Con Dore Christmas fund.
What happened? It won on the bridle
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