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Rory;
But he is one who is showing the way.And that was the point of using his success this last few years.To point out how it can and is done .I agree the article was crap.I don’t think the article is anything revelatory and it doesn’t suggest a way of reversing the trend, but the facts are there ~ top class racing in Britain is relatively healthy, but the ability of British based trainers to dominate the top races has been severely compromised in recent years by the strength in depth of overseas breeding/buying operations. Whether this is having a detrimental effect on the British breeding and racing industries is moot. The argument that owners can still compete by breeding from their own mares is fallacious ~ the big UK based owners are indeed breeding their own stock, but simply don’t have the same resources as they had thirty years ago, especially when you consider that victories for domestic trainers with Arb owned horses are dwindling due to the prominence and buying power of Godolphin.
The article doesn’t really say anything new and in any case Godolphin can hardly be said to be hoovering up at the mo, quite the opposite. Coolmore however are certainly having a purple patch especially with their older colts and these days not that many top flight English trained 3 yos stay in training. However nothing lasts for ever.
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Coolmore and Godolphin are not mopping up ALL the good stuff other wise we would see the colours at Cheltenham and Aintree.
Calling Godolfin a British yard is rather "Imperial" is it not?
Why? If you follow that logic Luca Cumani’s yard isn’t English and John Hammon’s yard isn’t French and Michael Dickinson’s isn’t American.
If those you mentioned moved in for the racing and out again afterwards I would agree. But they stay in the US or France year round unlike Godolfin..
Upon reading the article which was in the Racing Post under the above heading two things came to mind.
One; the recent wins of Moonstone and Montmartre suggest that the Aga Khan and Coolmore are doing business together.
Two; it looks as if the Godolfin operation is determined to not repeat its failures of recent times in Europe in Australia .They are moving there in force.I wonder how the spike in oil prices will affect the plans for Dubai?Will they supply cheap air transportation for holidaymakers to enjoy the races?I don’t know what all this rubbish is about the Aga Khan and Coolmore ‘doing business’ because of Moonstone and Montmartre.
I presume you think they are because Moonstone is by an Aga Khan sire and Montmartre is by a Coolmore sire?
But Moonstone wasn’t bred by Coolmore – she was bred by Britton House and then sold in their dispersal sale. Coolmore presumably bought her because she is a half-sister to L’Ancresse and is a fabulous female family to buy into.
And Montmartre was not bred by the Aga Khan. He was bred by the late Jean-Luc Lagardere and then bought as a block by the Aga Khan in the Lagardere dispersal.
I don’t think either enterprise ever had a embargo on the other – certainly the Aga Khan has previously used Coolmore stallions. Simply because these two horses have cropped up in their ownership in the same year does not mean there is now a partnership going on, it is purely coincidental.
The Aga Khan has always had a decent relationship with Coolmore as far as I’m aware. Sinddar is by Grand Lodge and Azamour is by Night Shift. Both sires stand (or stood in the case of the late Grand Lodge) at Coolmore.
As an aside, other than Montmartre, has anyone ever seen another grey son of Montjeu ?
There’s not many around, true enough. Montmartre’s greyness obviously comes from his Linamix damside. Hail Caesar, who won at Tipperary the other day for O’Brien is apparantly grey too – he’s from the dam family of Alborada, which explains his.
Doing business is rubbish. Maybe so but it is still doing business. Surely the Arabs have started doing business with Coolmore with the purchase of so much of the Coolmore bloodlines lately.eg Motivator and New Approach.If you know that the Arab boycott of Coolmore does not extend to their stock then one can with confidence expect them to purchase your proven stock even if they trace to Coolmore studs.
Despite not buying yearlings by stallions currently standing at Coolmore, maybe Sheikh Mohammed has come to the conclusion that in bloodstock terms, it’s a ‘war’ he can’t win ?
Recently he’s bought into Pivotal and strenghtened his support for his own Green Desert, and his sons (owns Cape Cross and bought a share in Invincible Spirit)…but really he can’t ignore Sadlers Wells, Danehill and their stallion sons. Darley are obviously trying to cultivate branches of these sire lines themselves so as to avoid directly assisting current Coolmore stallions through high-priced yearling purchases.
It sounds a bit like you are lumping the Aga Khan and the UAE Sheikhs all in together under the ‘Arab’ title. You do know that the Aga Khan is not affiliated to Godolphin in any way, don’t you?
Sheikh Mohammed’s decision to boycott Coolmore progeny at the sales seems to have come with the realisation (some time after the rest of us!) that he was only helping Coolmore by getting into bidding wars with them.
Because Coolmore strongly support their own sires’ progeny at the yearling sales, trying to take them on head-to-head in public auction means ending up a) paying an inflated price, b) handing money direct to Coolmore and c) boosting the profile and value of their sires.
Refusing to join in bidding wars for Coolmore progeny means not playing Coolmore’s game, and by supporting Darley stallions at auction they can try to build up their own sires’ profiles in the same way that Coolmore do.
However, this logic does not apply to private sales, where prices are not revealed, Coolmore does not dictate the values and Sheikh Mohammed can negotiate his own terms. Darley have always had animals with Coolmore related pedigrees, and to cut a whole section of bloodlines out of one’s breeding operation would be foolish – hence the private sales and getting involved in SW lines through New Approach and Authorized (I’ll pretend you didn’t say Motivator, as he has bog all to do with Darley) as they are friendly or neutral sources.
This does not bring comfort for commercial breeders though – most are breeding for a quick return at the yearling sales and don’t want to have to wait until the end of their animal’s two year old career, hoping for an approach from Godolphin.
I wouldn’t be any more confident this year than last that a Coolmore-sired yearling would be purchased by Sheikh Mohammed’s operation at the sales. Was that your assertion? I couldn’t quite tell.
There’s not many around, true enough. Montmartre’s greyness obviously comes from his Linamix damside. Hail Caesar, who won at Tipperary the other day for O’Brien is apparantly grey too – he’s from the dam family of Alborada, which explains his.
Just to be pedantic, Hail Caesar’s grey dam, Alabastrine, inherited her colour from her dam Alruccaba, who in turn inherited it from either her sire Crystal Palace or her dam Allara (but not both).
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