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    Avatar photoraymo61
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    It looks a mighty race and the front two are very interesting but I have had a few quid each way on SKARDU at 7/1 and SHELIR at 33/1 both four places.

    Shelir could be anything and Skardu is surely not seven points worse than Magna Grecia ?

    Good Luck Guys :good: :good:

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    Frenchy15
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    GT, what’s your view on the actual value price for TDH? Ie, would you be concerned about the drift, or that he’s drifting to a more realistic price based on everything?

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    To be fair, Raymo; @ 11/8 (42.1%) Magna Grecia would only need to have a better than X 3.37 chance than Skardu 7/1 (12.5%) for MG to be a better bet. 42.1 ‘/, 12.5 = 3.37

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    I didn’t work out the race as a conventional 100% book, Frenchy.
    Instead I first broke the field in to three.
    If MG, TDH and The Field all had the same chance of winning, each of the three would be 33.3% recurring chance of winning (33.333 X 3 = 100%). But imo Magna Grecia has a fair amount more than a one third chance, fractional better chance than TDH, with TDH having a fair bit more chance than the others put together.

    ** I also think the combined chance of Magna and Skardu have just about fractionally better chance than TDH + The Field, but couldn’t split Magna + The Field Vs combined chance of TDH and The Field.

    Magna Grecia 38% = a fair 13/8
    Too Darn Hot 35% = 15/8 So is now imo good value @ 85/40
    Which leaves the field (incl. Skardu) with 27% = combined 11/4
    …And am pretty sure that Skardu has a better chance than all the rest put together (so 27 ‘/, 2 = 13.5) therefore Skardu I rate as a 15% = 11/2. So is imo value @ 7/1.

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    Magna 38 + Skardu 15 = 53%
    TDH 35 + The Field 12 = 47%
    TDH 35 + Skardu 15 = 50%
    Magna 38 + 12 The Field = 50%

    However, 11/10 Skardu to place looks better than any other bet.

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    #1441382
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    Is your Skardu 11/10 three places or four Ginge ?

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    Three Raymo.

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    #1441386
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    With my 38% MG and 15% Skardu, Magna Grecia has only around 2 1/2 times the chance of Skardu, Raymo. ;-)

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    or that he’s drifting to a more realistic price based on everything?

    I think TDH was too short last night/this morning, Frenchy and then the market over-compensated. However, if drifting out further it would be worrying. :good:

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    Frenchy15
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    Cheers GT! :good: Hope he doesn’t drift anymore

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    Mohawk at 25s and Skardu at 6s for me.

    Cheers!

    #1441395
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    Didn’t see that coming, and as I said, Magna Grecia wasn’t the best horse in the UK Guineas. What a farce of a race that was.

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    Mike007
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    Well done Big G. And anyone else.

    Gosden dunno what he does now.

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    Avatar photojackh1092
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    Picked that thing out for the Eng equivalent for him not to go. Then didn’t back him here. Lovely! Nice Big G!

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    Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!

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    Craking choice Big G, he was super impressive all things being said. Decrypt also ran a cracker.

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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Well done Graham with Phoenix Of Spain and all backers..thankfully put a couple of pound on himself and Decrypt as thought there might be a shock in this..what a lovely horse and great ride from Mr. Spencer :good:

    Just about to watch The Temple Stakes and hoping Mabs Cross :heart: will beat Battaash..going behind now…

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
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    Battaash much to good…super sprinter superstar :good: :bye:

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    #1441404
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Cheers everyone, I was delighted with that result. Magna Grecia was sending out alarm signals
    a good distance from home. It’s debatable if Too Darn Hot ran his race, perhaps he did and Phoenix
    Of Spain is just a very good horse. It looks like he has progressed from 2 to 3, and he’s an
    exciting prospect. I backed him at 12 when I thought that was a good price, and again today at
    16s which I think was an insult to the horse. I wonder whether he’ll go for the St James Palace,
    or even the Coral Eclipse, he certainly didn’t look like he was running out of fuel at a mile
    distance, he could be even better over 10f. Either way I’m not going to back against him :good:

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