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My lad Cloudy Dream ran like a horse massively in need of a step up in trip yesterday. Brian Hughes blamed the ground as he got off but it looked more to me like he was outpaced when the other two put the burners on going down the hill and turning for home, before keeping on willingly back up the hill for a staying on second.
I’ll be banging the drum all season for this so I can only apologise in advance for the future headaches I’ll be giving fellow forumites
My plan from here would be to rest up over Christmas while the ground gets mucky and come back in January for the Cotswold Chase. I’m convinced he can be this seasons Sizing John and make up into a Gold Cup horse.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/jefferson-daring-to-dream-of-gold-cup-1-8865933
Bang your drum loud enough and music gets made
Taken some of the 33/1 on offer with Bet365 for the Gold Cup for Bristol De Mai.
Can see him gagging up at Haydock and being cut accordingly.
Think he is improving and ran alright last year.
Bristol De Mai @ 90’s. 2nd in the JLT in 2016, credible 7th in the GC. Is 6 going on 7 with improvement to come.
I suspect Whisper is doomed to be one of those who is always going to be the bridesmaid in big races although 20/1 is tempting for the Gold Cup. Might Bite easily has his measure on RSA from but that one isn’t straightforward in either temperament or jumping. Conversely, you’d need to go a long way to find a more consistent, teak-tough, safe-jumping animal than Whisper who goes on any ground and is solid at Cheltenham. As such, touch wood on soundness, he is a remarkably strong antepost proposition. I rarely bet EW antepost but assuming he comes out of today in good shape, I’d be tempted to take 20s EW.
I think Yorkhill is going to win the Gold Cup!
Stengths
* 2/2 at the festival
* Bred for the trip (Stamina, Speed and ability in abundance)
* Goes on any ground
* Jumps well enough left handed
* Unexposed 7 year old 2nd Season Chaser with scope to improve further
* Top class Jockey will ride him
* Stay’s Injury free with no real setbacksWeaknesses
* Can be very keen and pull quite hard- I expect the race to be run at a good clip, so hoping he settles better with experience.
* Idles when hits the front- (This is my biggest worry)
* Will be ridden at the back so more likely to bump into trouble! (Also a concern)Yorkhill does have his qurks, but for be his profile, ability and track form for me outweighs his kinks.
Over 10s on the machine and 8/1 fixed is fair. I have backed him and will keep doing so.
I love Yorkhill but couldn’t back him for the Gold Cup at 8/1. As an ante post proposition for the GC I want an 8/1 shot at this stage to be 100% going for the race and tried and tested over 3m+. Yorkhill is a beast but as it stands, he is neither. He could go Champion Chase, Ryanair or even the Champion Hurdle, we just don’t know. Come race day 8/1 could look terrific value, but I’d far rather take Corals 6/1 about Sizing John. It’s a far less ‘exciting’ (for want of a better word) ante post bet, but based on what we know now he ticks far more boxes than Yorkhill and is unquestionably going to try and retain the GC
Who will Mullins go with do you think MOM….?
Surely Djackadam has had enough shots at it
If Yorkhill runs in the Lexus and does well it’ll be a natural stepping stone, if he blows out then rethink but I’d say the Gold Cup would be the target at presentGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
According to Mullins and then Rich Ricci on On The Line on separate occasions, Djakadam will go for the Gold Cup again.
But I would expect if Yorkhill lines up, Walsh would ride him of course. However, with Yorkhill, he could go to any of about four races. I think that makes him a major doubt for this race at 8/1.
Exactly, could go anywhere. If I had to back Yorkhill now I’d far rather take 5/1 to win any race (Hills) than 8/1 on the GC.
Some people say Yorkhill is a beast etc but he didn’t beat Top Notch far in the JLT and is Top Notch Gold Cup winning class?
Really like the horse backed him in the JLT antepost for a nice little earner just saying would like to see him against top 3 mile chasers first before getting too excited.I don’t think Yorkhill’s beast like status is in questio. You don’t win multiple times at the festival and hold top 5 in the betting for the GC, Champion Hurdle and Champion chase without being a bit of a beast!
Re Top Notch and the JLT, you cannot judge Yorkhill’s GC credentials and assess his suitability for the GC on this. Yorkhill can idle in front and he jumped the last on the bridle with tons in hand. Top Notch is a smaller speedier animal and doesn’t look like he wants much further than 2m5f.
Whilst that’s true Charlie, and yes YH idles in front and basically does everything wrong he can do but still runs like a beast most of the time….Top Notch clattered the 2nd last and has ran an absolute cracker.
I would love Yorkhill to go here. My main gripe is his price compared to Sizing Johns for the Lexus. Yes part of it is priced based on Wonder Woman saying she would love to run but will do right by the horse…but Yorkhill is entered in every race possible, just because mullins has mentioned Yorkhill and Lexus, really means zero as we know…He’s favourite over Sizing John in a Lexus
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Not denying Top Notch didn’t ride a great race Jack. Mike007’s point was that Yorkhill didn’t beat Top Notch by far and if you don’t consider Top Notch as Gold Cup winning class then how can you Yorkhill. Just saying I think that’s a pointless conclusion to draw from the race.
People say Yorkhill ‘does everything wrong’ but in the JLT he was foot perfect (other than a tiny nod on landing at the first fence in the back straight)
He pecked on landing over the last too Charlie but you’re right Ruby gave him a cracking ride…The horse was switched on to the faller as well and sidestepped it well, showing for all he is quirky, he is intelligent and switched on…
Agree Charlie on that, its very hard to know what Yorkhill has left in the tank, he could have plenty as hes an idler, so by beating TN a length its hard to draw a full conclusion.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!
My plan from here would be to rest up over Christmas while the ground gets mucky and come back in January for the Cotswold Chase. I’m convinced he can be this seasons Sizing John and make up into a Gold Cup horse.
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