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    Avatar photothehorsesmouth
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    Don Cossack had a confidence booster around Thurles after his fall in the King George, unfortunately for Killultagh Vic he won’t have that luxury. It will be a great story should he win.

    My long term fancy has been Our Duke, who has hardly had an ideal prep himself, but there were positives in his Leopardstown run. Gowran on Saturday looks the plan for him.

    #1342267
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    I’m siding with Blacklion & Definitly Red – managed to get 33/1 ew on Black and 50/1 ew on Red

    Still great value on them both imo – 25s & 16s

    I watched Twiston Davies talk to Matt Chapman last night and i just have this feeling that its been the plan all along for Blacklion to run in the GC rather than at Aintree.

    #1342430
    ham
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    Total recall runs here afterall

    #1342440
    Avatar photoBen_Bernanke
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    interesting stuff, happy that means hes not in the coral cup!

    #1342464
    Avatar photoVautour
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    Strange one; I thought he’d definitely run in the Coral Cup as his hurdle mark should still be below his Chase mark. Based on his Whisper form he has no chance here? Unless they’ve bait another stone of improvement into him

    #1342480
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    I think they want to try the GC as a test to see if he can handle carrying a decent weight. When/if Definitly Red & Bristol De Mai come out he’ll have a bigger weight.

    #1342712
    ham
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    That race will have ended our dukes gold cup chance and presenting percy’s for that matter, dont get why youd give them such a hard race so close to the fes.

    #1342789
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    Big gross horse only having his second run of the season, I was delighted and so was Jessie.

    Jockey choice for Our Duke will be very interesting (Puppy surely chooses SJ).

    #1342862
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    Ham, last year’s winner won a 3m G1 race on soft 4.5 weeks before festival, each horse is different. OD definitely needed it.

    It’s a simple choice for puppy though, OD prob at the level he showed today, which will be well short of GC winner imo.

    The 2 form horses are Road to Respect and MB; both are fair prices IMO, especially the former who is improving all the time and arrives fresh next month

    #1342864
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    Nothing to do with horses being incapable of running to form 4 weeks after having a hard race, but hes had two pretty hard races in 2 weeks after back surgery, i get that the horse needed the run, but they should have skipped the irish gold cup and just used this, did he really need two? Not so sure. Definitely came on for the run in the irish gold cup, looked fit and ready today, i dont believe he will improve any from this run, is the point im making. Should have waited the two weeks and just used today.

    One to many given his injury i fear, just an opinion of course and i may very well be wrong, but that was another hard race today, i dont think PP needed that either.

    His jumping has been pretty poor his last 2 runs, clouted another today.

    Is he definitely going to cheltenham?

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    I thought that giving a horse as good as PP 7lb and a beating over a trip far too short and on ground that was far from ideal was an excellent prep for the GC personally.He will only improve for the better ground and step up in trip.

    Will agree that his jumping has become a major concern now though,still having back issues possibly?

    #1342894
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    Just a lazy sort that loses concentration apparently. Better ground hopefully help him with his jumping.

    Noel Fehily has been confirmed as jockey for him in the GC, delighted with that.

    #1342910
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    Could be right moyenne, just puts me off slightly, i know all horses are different, but why does our duke need 2 quick/hard races after back surgery within 4 weeks of the gc, but sizing john can be prepped at home, off since december.

    Fehily a good booking certainly kev

    #1342926
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    I think Anibale Fly is worth one more try here at 40-1 each way. I don’t think he would have won a fortnight ago, but he was slowly creeping into it before that ugly fall.

    I will add him to my Road To Respect 12-1 and hopefully they can give me some compensation for my non Runners

    #1342961
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    Cue Card will go here with Paddy Brennan.

    #1342966
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    Pretty sure the stats for horses winning the Gold Cup after winning /running on Heavy are massively against Our Duke.

    Gowran Park is a stiff track

    #1342968
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    Whilst I’m sure we all adore Cue Card I just can’t see him winning the Gold Cup. He had his chance two years ago when falling three out when looking as if he had fuel to burn. To be honest I’m not he gets the 3m 2f trip. He clearly gets three miles but the extra two furlongs and the uphill finish are, in my view, a bridge too far for him. I hope they go for the Ryanair, I hope he wins it and brings the roof down (not literally). Leave the Gold Cup to Might Bite and co.

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