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Now the 2000 Guineas is wide open am more than hopeful for a horse that I took 66/1 for the 2000 Guineas before his run in The Craven and that is SET PIECE now around 20/1.
He has progressed nicely up the ranks from AW class 5 and 4 to run 3rd in a Group 3. He was held up at the rear of the field making ground halfway through the race he took up the lead but possibly needed his race and feel he will strip fitter in 2 weeks time.
MOHAATHER 16/1 is my other choice, very impressive winning The Greenham He could be anything, really liked the way he quickened away from the field and sure he will improve leaps and bounds. Unfashionable trainer in Marcus Tregoning but could spring a surprise.
My two against the field…
Set Piece
Mohaather
Both Each WayJac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Right then.. 2000 Guineas. Here’s what I’m thinking with 13 days til the race.
Too Darn Hot and Calyx are all but certainties to miss the race. Add in Quorto and it’s a race that looked like being a vintage renewal to one with more questions and unknown quantities than a typical classic.
Behind those three, the next best of last years two year old performers come in the shape of Ten Sovereigns and Persian King. The former has been well backed for this over the last few days and is trained by the master Aiden O’Brien. That money could be more than just punters looking for an alternative to Too Darn Hot after news broke of his absence. However, he’s looked all over a sprinter and I’m really not sure he’s a 5/2 shot. He just has too many doubts about staying for me. Persian King has no worries about staying. His problem is he may not be coming. For a horse who has run and won at Newmarket, I just can’t understand why he wouldn’t come over from France for this. He’d be my main bet if turning up. He looked very decent on his reappearance in his homeland and I would play at 3/1 if confirmed as a runner.
On those that have run this season, Mohaather looked good when winning the Greenham. That being said, I’m dubious about that race. Skardu beat the Godolphin pair Zakouski and Royal Marine last week in the Craven showing a decent turn of foot. For me, the one to take from that was Royal Marine though. He was given a pretty poor ride and had no luck in running before running on late at the dip. The true gallop of the Guineas should suit him and I think he’s overpriced.
Persian King & Royal Marine for me in the Guineas in the royal blue of Godolphin.
Shame for Newmarket to miss out, but looks as though Too Darn Hot may be going Dante – Derby.
Fingers crossed.
Value Is EverythingThey’ve said he’s going French Guineas GT unless it rains a lot!
Hein, it might not be hard to understand what you actually said- but more how you’ve come to that consensus.
Let’s not continue this though, as it’s clogging up the thread, and it’s clearly going to go nowhere!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!A shame TDH is out
had a few multiples running on to him
I think we all know the family history so a case of risk/reward for me gone wrong, it happensClemmie last year
Teofilo way back whenI’d like to see Line of Duty run here. Appleby mentioned something about a couple others running that could decide things, does anyone know any updates.??
Think he has a good blend of speed and stamina
Agree with MOM about Ten Sovereigns but at least he has the master training him
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Hein, it might not be hard to understand what you actually said- but more how you’ve come to that consensus.
Ditto, but Hein doesn’t like explaining his opinions – so no good asking.
Value Is EverythingI think Hein has said (correct me if I’m wrong) that TDH is a two year and will not progress and with the family history of injuries his price is too short for this race. Perhaps Hein means at the time of posting that TDH is poor value / hyped.. ??
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What myself and Jack would’ve liked is an explanation of why Hein thinks TDH is just a two year old and will not progress; Nathan. But if he doesn’t want to explain that’s fair enough – we’ll just have to guess.
Value Is EverythingI agree Ginge but will cut Hein a bit of slack
English is not his first language afterall
My mate Jurgen still gets his words wrong
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More I look at the Craven the more I think Royal Marine did better than could be expected – considering didn’t settle finished only 2 3/4 lengths behind the winner.
Value Is EverythingI like to make my selections based on trends and trying to find the strong trends. I’ve gone back 20 years of past winners now and no horse by a Sire with an Index as low as No Nay Never has won the Eng Guineas. Although there is some stamina on the Dam side, she is also by Exceed & Excel, so it all points to Ten Sovereigns not staying well enough to win. He might stay 8F but not well enough to win an Eng Guineas 8F based on those trends. Last point on TS, is going back as far as 12 years, no horse has won this having never run over 7F+. Maybe AOB will blow all that away, but he’s way too short surely.
Of the others Persian King I don’t even think is good enough, otherwise Fabre would surely send him here? Anyway 90% certain to miss it so very unlikely to run now, Magna Grecia is out of Invincible Spirit, another Sire who’s only won over 6F and an index so low that it would have to break the same 20 year+ trend. Royal Marine’s had two bad runs now, so big doubts based on that. It’s been over 10 years since a Craven winner won the Guineas and Skardu wasn’t a particularly strong Craven winner based on RPR. Mohaather and Advertise are out of Showcasing(breaking 20 year Sire trends again), Jash is a sprinter and Set Piece hasn’t achieved enough on RPR.
Madhmoon was disappointing in his trial, but it was on soft and he’ll be better over 8F on decent ground, he was my earlier bet. The other is Line of Duty. Charlie Appleby said in the Racing Post Stable Tour, that he’s an exciting classic prospect but may not be sharp enough for the Guineas(that would make sense based on the profile of recent Galileo winners usually being by speedier Dams), but that he’d be disappointed if he didn’t run well, suggesting he’s expecting him to place at least and with the race cutting up he might be good enough to win it now and he has the best 2 year old form in the book pretty much of horses certain to stay well.
So Madhmoon 20/1 and Line of Duty 20/1 for me.
I think also the Guineas has a bit of a history of long shots getting placed, so I’ll be looking at something around 66 & 100/1 EW on the day.
My biggest worry with Line of duty is why he’s so weak on the exchanges if anyone can shed any light on that?
If you like Royal Marine Ginge, and I very much agree he could improve, what do you think about Set Piece’s chances? I think he looked short of a piece of work on the day and put in a good run.
Mohaather is really exciting and although I shall be sorry to miss seeing Too Darn Hot, Calyx and Quorto I’m really looking foward to seeing how this boy progresses from his Greenham triumph.
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