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Hi Ginger
Yes looking back I see that I must have got the two fillies mixed up ..seems an age ago now apologies for that slip up..you will remember I only had eyes for Qabala at the time and sadly she never managed to recreate her Nell Gwyn success although she had a pretty good try and size made no difference to the way she ran
JacHad anyone heard or read any reports/tweets from Roger Charlton as to how Qadrilateral has wintered and how he has got her ready for this race?
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Found this
Jason Watson about 5 days ago‘She looks like a bull!’ – Jason Watson on 1,000 Guineas favourite Quadrilateral
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Stable tour (May 21st)
She’s a very exciting filly who is three from three including the Group One Fillies’ Mile at Newmarket. It’s so far so good with her. I’ll do the best I can to get her ready for the QIPCO 1000 Guineas. She’s pleased us but we haven’t asked her any big questions. She looks very well and has done well physically.
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Lol..Thanks Nathan
again nothing really given away that we didn’t know already in that Stable Tour just the ‘do the best I can to get her ready’ so in that can we presume that as others on here have said the delay will be to her advantage.I took some lovely pictures of Quadrilateral in the cooling down area after she won the Fillies Mile that I wish I could post and she looked like a 3yo then so really interesting what Jason Watson is saying that she hasn’t grown during the winter but filled her frame and put on muscle.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Haha Colosus! It is a mad world out there right now for sure, thank god we have racing back to take our minds away from it!
Whilst I won’t back Pinatubo, I’ll be very happy if he romps home as racing needs a big positive headline at the moment
Yes Frenchy, Millisle may well have been 40/1 after the Cheveley Park and is now 6/1. However, that was to an enormous degree about the likelyhood of getting a run. Jessie Harrington had Albigna and Alpine Star (right now the Irish 1000 fav and second fav) and also Cayenne Pepper (also only 12/1 for that race after injury). All those three thought better prospects for our Guineas. Therefore, at Cheveley Park time Millisle was thought by bookies / punters / the market an extremely unlikelyly Newmarket Guineas runner – hence the 40/1. Same reason why she was over double the price she is now only a matter of days ago; with Albigna still fairly prominent (shorter than Millisle) in the market. With ante-post the first objective is getting a run. So bookies lure punters in for horses thought unlikely starters. Now Millisle is (as near as) a definite runner it should be seen as a totally different market than after the Cheveley Park or even a week or so ago. 40/1 and 14/1 can’t easily be compared with the 6’s imo. Is Millisle a probable winner? No. Has Millisle got a better than 14.3% (fair 6/1) chance of winning? imo yes. On a sound surface I’d say 20% (4/1).
Value Is EverythingThe closer we get to the race the more confident I am about Quadrilateral. I am sure they will go pretty quick enough given AOB has 3 in the race and Love is likely to want further – one of them will be used to set a good pace. Quad may hit a flat spot but as long as she is within 2 lengths as they meet the rising ground she will win going away. Also happen to think she’ll be a better horse on quicker ground. Her best performance last year was on the better surface at Newbury 2nd time out. She will prove herself the class horse and Love will follow her home.
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I will likely add an in running bet at 10.0 on quadrilateral and see if I get matched
Can picture the speedy fillies travelling well into the dip and quadrilateral hard at it, then her staying on strongly at the finish
Problem is many will have similar ideas and she may not hit such a price until she has no chance
I don’t actually agree with that GT. Millisle achieved more on the track RPR wise than both Albigna and Alpine Star. Usually a strong winner of Grp1 as a 2year old would have bookies running for cover a little bit. In April JH was talking about going to the French Guineas with Albigna, Alpine star would be better over further and Millisle was going to the English Guineas. If Millisle has a good chance of staying why would she be double the price of Albigna having achieved more on the track.
She might stay and the form as a rating is in the book but she’s not value for me as there’s a large element of doubt there.
I also don’t get the comments people make about her being strong at the finish over 6f. What difference does that make? Got another 2f to go, so it proves she might stay 6.5/7 but 8s another story.
I’d get it if she was 12s, but she’s 5s with some now, that’s way too short for me, but let’s see!
My view she’s running in England because they are really not sure about her staying and that dropping her back in trip for the Commonwealth Cup becomes the option afterwards. I can certainly see that happening. I think that’s more likely than she stays for me.
I said the others were thought better prospects for our Guineas at the time of the Cheveley Park, Frenchy; not that the other three were better fillies. I agree Millisle has marginally better two year old form not just over her stable companions but over every two year old filly. (Although personally think Quadrilateral has more scope to improve). But there’s only a couple of lengths (if that) between Millisle and Albigna and the same between Albigna and the other two… And with them all having potential to improve as three year olds they were all in the reckoning for a run here… And if looking at all four fillies probable distance requirements; only Millisle had any pretentions of being effective at shorter than a mile. Therefore, if the four fillies were to be kept apart (as is usually the case with a trainer’s best horses) you might expect Millisle to go a different route… Hence the other three being thought better prospects for our Guineas at the time of the Cheveley Park. Something may well have happened on the gallops at home to suggest Millisle is by far their best chance of winning. Fact she’s the chosen one can only be a massive positive for her chances imo; especially as the Irish Guineas market suggests there’s nothing wrong with at least two of the other three fillies.
Being strong at the finish of a race run at a strong pace is encouraging she’d get further. Over any distance, anything that finishes like she did in a race that broke the track record at the back end of their two year old career (ie a race that tested stamina rather than speed at the trip)… is extremely likely to be suited by further at three. Yes, that could well mean 7f. But if she’s going to be suited by 7f she only has one more furlong to get… And the fact she’s so relaxed is another major plus when it comes to staying the mile. imo 66.66 gets it – 33.33 not.
Value Is EverythingMillisle..
Trainer comments yesterday…
“I’m pretty sure she will stay. If you look at the Cheveley Park last year she was going to win nothing a hundred yards from the post and she won a length and a half going away.
“I think she will stay. She’s got plenty of stamina on the dam’s side and she is a very relaxed filly.”
Setting the in running at 10.0 on Quadrilateral is too high.
Ya might get 8.0 !
Thanks Joni for the compliment on my post.
I might have something for us at Naas races next monday.
I know the horse is ready but there is a massive amount of entries and am hoping he gets in.I am glued to the 2000 Guineas market.
Big money coming for Pinatubo and more will come.
He is drawn 7….Buick can ride him anyway he wants.
Arizona the 2nd fav is drawn 13.I can see Pinatubo going off at 8/11
Colosus
Good luck with Millisle chaps. Last thing I’ll say about her, is that when talking about staying a mile, we are not talking about any old mile either. She has to stay AND win a 1000 Guineas. Too much doubt there for me at 6/1. If it was an 8F Group3, then you’d say she’s got a great chance. 1000 Guineas 8F, different test for her.
If she wins, she could go on and be a very special filly this season, that’s for sure. I would be super impressed.
Jac
again nothing really given away that we didn’t know already in that Stable Tour just the ‘do the best I can to get her ready’ so in that can we presume that as others on here have said the delay will be to her advantage.
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