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Kathy et al, can I just ask you something and expect an honest answer.
When both of these programmes have aired, and the BBC have had their money’s worth, the dust has died etc, do you really think anything will change? NO. It won’t.
If you can come up with a way to fill racing with saints, then by all means go for it. I do NOT like the way racing is run, I do NOT obey simpering to what trainers say, but unfortunately I also do NOT see any way in the foreseeable future that it will change.
And no, I’m not happy about that either. Believe me I am as p***ed off as anyone else about the fact that people are getting screwed over betting tickets, but these programmes are out for their own gains and have no interest in the the sport and once the fuss dies down, it will be back to the grind as per usual.
Kathy –
I don’t like the way racing is covered up and run any more than anyone else, but the fact remains, the Jockey Club has been in place for the purpose of fixing it for years and they’ve done sod all.
If there’s no obvious way of sorting it out, what good is it going to do moaning about it?
My calculated, professional and unprejudiced verdict on the programme is…total load of fuss about sod all.
If you want a bent sport look at the one where men dressed as waiters run around a table carrying bits of trees.
Yes, I mean snooker.
J-Burg – 7f and under (plus releasing his own album)<br>Rock of Gibralter – miler<br>Hawk – 10f<br>High Chap – 1m4 plus<br>Milan older races middle distances end of year.
More of the same on the horizon….yawn.
They were going to for a second about two years ago, so I heard Rob.
Thank **** they changed their minds.
Istabraq was a BallyD horse but he wasn’t one of a cavalry designed to pacemake, strategize, overpower and scare off the opposition.
Frankly, when I got into racing about four/five years back, I loved flat as much as jumps.
Now I really, really do not, and it’s not a coincidence.
One of the things that I like best about this sport is the correct breeding side – studying pedigrees, sales, bloodlines etc. However, this haphazard commercial approach is ruining the sport in a lot of ways. Like many other pasttimes like football etc, this is no longer a sport in the classic sense, but a business with an audience. Shame.
Mesh – I agree with Godolphin’s policy of keeping horses in training. I have maintained for a long time that actions like that are the ones that will keep a young audience in racing. Let’s face it; whilst aiming for a young audience racing authorities have to think that their main audience will bve pony-mad teenagers, and they’re in it for the horses at first – that’s how I got hooked and many people I know. How are people meant to follow flat racers like Galileo who are brilliant but gone in two years? My first "favourite" was Suny Bay, and I got into the sport towards the end of his career – I still got to follow him for four years.
As long as Godolphin keep older horses going, I will support them over Ballydoyle, although I think Tabor et al are starting to realise that older horse races are dominated by Godolphin and they can compete.
Sal and Steve M – weird this cropped up about over-using first season sires because I mentioned it briefly in an article on gg.com today just before this thread was started. I was talking about Golan, saying that if a horse of Spectrum’s calibre has about 200 offspring trotting about, you would expect at least one to be a bit of good.
I know a lot of experts are very worried about this over-booking of stallions and although I’m not an expert, I’m still worried. They think there’s dross racing at the moment, give it five years and you won’t believe you thought this was bad.
That’s the hurdler alright Mesh. I’m useless at names today for some reason…maybe its because its raining and miserable and I’m trying to write "the novel" and my brain is in a thousand places at once! I know who I mean, anyway :laugh:
Maybe I’ve got it wrong about Salcho, I know the name is something like that. He’s still running today, or was last season at least.
Sinndar’s half brother was a selling hurdler, still is I think. Cant for the life of me remember his name though…S…something…
Hi Mujtahid was by Mujtahid out of High Tern, meaning he’s a half brother to High Rise yet he could only win sellers if that.
Salcho is also by Sadler’s Wells out of Oh So Sharp and was nowhere near as good as Savoire Vivre.
Two expensive, well-bred buys of the Maktoum lot, Classic Music and Snaafi Dancer, were very well bred and ran like dogs. Not sure if it was one of those two or another, might have been called Seattle Dancer actually, or something, who was related to Seattle Slew and was also useless….lots come to mind I just can’t recall the exact details.
Interesting though for someone like me who follows pedigrees quite a lot.
Yes but if you were a new follower of the sport you wouldn’t know James Fanshawe had anything to do with it. A new owner wouldn’t think to send a horse to him, a potential owner wouldn’t hear and think maybe he should take James off to the sales etc etc.
Please does not sustain a career. A smaller trainer would be totally gutted if you ask me at least James has good results to keep him afloat.
If you were a struggling trainer and got really lucky with a horse only for the owner to sell it, for it to win a big race, be honest and tell us how you would feel?
Many thanks to everyone involved, that was a top-flight Q&A, this forum gets better and better!!
