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  • in reply to: St Leger 2006 #76278
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    This horse has been very well placed by his owner, seem to remember when he won at York Channon wanted to go for a far lesser race a few days before. <br>I would take a second in The Niel and a win in a German G1 anyday rather than the unknown of The Leger. Just shows trainer doesn’t always know best. Not bad for a 30 grand yearling.

    in reply to: Which is your luckiest winner? #77345
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    I’ve never had a lucky winner:(  but have had plenty of unlucky losers:( :(

    in reply to: Fallon charged #76935
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    Quote: from Venusian on 7:54 pm on Sep. 13, 2006[br]If the police are going to focus on the Balinger Ridge race as a key part of their investigations, then Fallon has nothing to worry about. Whatever he may, or may not, have done in other races, that ride was 100% cock-up, not conspiracy

    <br>What worries me is that the likely court case is not going to prove anything one way or the other, and will just be a mess. The police seem to be utterly clueless, no wonder the crime clear-up rate in this country is so appalling.<br>

    If someone’s going to ride a crooked race are they going to try do it in such a way that it is obvious to any Tom, Dick or Harry it was crooked or will they try to do it skilfully eg hoodwink people into thinking it was all cock up rather than conspiracy?<br>They may well be but how do we know all the police are utterley clueless on the subject?

    in reply to: Roger Charlton #77243
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    Is that the reason they do it ap? <br>Two wrongs don’t make a right, if that’s the case they should have more races for older horses only but 3yo’s should be treated fairly in the races they are allowed to enter.

    in reply to: Roger Charlton #77241
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    Don’t know about that Gus, think Willoughby is slightly more knowledgeable about the subject than Haigh.

    What is the reasoning supposed to be in doing the runners by weight allotted rather than rating? it’s illogical. If 3 yo’s are allowed in the race they should be treated the same. It’s one of a number of anomalys concerning weights that don’t make sense.<br>Don’t seem to remember Patavellian getting a run in The Bunbury through this anomaly.<br>As there are races confined to 3yo’s so there are for 4yo’s plus.

    in reply to: Chester #76674
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    If there was nothing wrong with the horse for Beverley they could have withdrawn without penalty due to the ground rather than pay £55 for a "vets".

    These 48hr decs have a lot to answer for.

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    I like SwallowCottage don’t understand why they would be interviewing someone who’s put 25 quid on a loser:o

    in reply to: Most impressive winner that went on… #76828
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    Green Green Desert, they thought he was a world beater and he was impressive when he won first time out.

    in reply to: Chester #76666
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    Withdrawn horses isn’t much of a problem at Chester as has already been pointed  been pointed out by Galejade, you get the odd one or two high drawn withdrawn but the prize money usually encourages them to run, keep the prize money up and you will get the runners despite the draw.

    As for Beverley, I think they tried it for one meeting were nothing was conclusively proven, there was certainly no complete reverse of the bias, for some unknown reason they aborted the experiment after the one meeting.

    in reply to: Chester #76660
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    Have you got an answer for my Beverley question David?

    in reply to: Chester #76658
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    Why should connections be penalised unjustly for their horse having a minor problem, 3 weeks is ridiculous, any outstanding entries is sufficient to placate both sides. <br>Maybe courses should do more to negate the draw, eg Does anyone know of any good reason why Beverley haven’t had an extended trial of having the stalls on the stands side?

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    The handicapper doesn’t take the draw into account, he can’t. if you were penalised for having a "vets" they would just use unsuitable ground. <br>When we hopefully return to 24 hr entries I would like to see a 5 day ban for all "vets" as well as the previously required change of ground.

    in reply to: SPECIOSA and OLYMPIAN ODYSSEY #76752
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    Didn’t think Speciosa was particulaly promising Frank, connections were hoping for a top 3 finish, thought it was a strange race to run in and the horse has been poorly campaigned since she won the Guineas.

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    Who can blame them, one of the problems at tracks like Chester & Beverley. I’d like to see the stalls tried on the far rail at Chester and the stands side at Beverley.

    in reply to: WALTER SWINBURN #76494
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    A few years ago when P Harris was the trainer I enquired about having a quarter share in a 40 grand yearling and was quoted 25 grand, needless to say I didn’t bother, the horse didn’t win a penny prize money despite several runs.

    I think they make sure they get a good profit whatever happens to the horse, they do have their own private chopper after all. I think much better value can be found elsewhere.

    in reply to: WALTER SWINBURN #76489
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    Don’t think Wally trained either of them David;)

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    I’ve heard the same and they are very expensive, is it just a coincidence that all the best horses seem to be owned by Mrs P Harris?

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