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  • in reply to: ITV Racing #1755747
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    Would have hated to be at Kempson today because the unfunny,uncool and unnecessarily OTT announcements accompanying the winners as they came back in would have had me rooted to the spot with embarrassment.

    Even via the Tv you could hear that it was a particularly piss poor poundshop attempt at whipping up excitement boxing style and at one point because an owner’s name was Beadle ‘Watch out Beadle’s about’ was exclaimed.

    This kind of dumbed down crap needs calling out,its just such a wet and misguided attempt to appeal to god knows who, because I can’t think of any potential demographic that wouldn’t find this failed razzamataz approach utterly cringe making .

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1693512
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    I genuinely think that albeit from a low base Francesca has improved so far this season .

    She is actually giving a firm opinion when doing her paddock commentary and seems more willing to like or not like the look of any particular horse ….this certainly hasn’t happened much before I think.

    I’ve also noticed that it appears from her comments that she has done some homework and watched races that haven’t necessarily been on ITV.

    I remain sceptical about whether she is what the programme needs overall but there has also been an uplift in her contributions to the conversations in the presenters group.

    in reply to: Is Willie Mullins’ domination boring? #1680085
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    Yes,it is IS boring .

    The same trainer or owner having 4 and 5 runners in a race is boring and very unhealthy for the sport.

    Very hard to explain away to casual observers or potential followers and totally detracts from the competitive aspect of the sport .

    Absolutely nothing to recommend it .

    in reply to: Brawl at Aintree #1673461
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    If racecourses are going to allow thugs in suits or smart casual thugs who cant handle their drink into racecourses then they need to up their game re security and have properly trained bouncers-with-a-brain types who deter in the first place by their sheer presence or can respond in the 2nd place if trouble erupts like it did here. Minimum wage student types are no use in these situations.

    On balance if you are only holding on to someone it can be reasonably assumed that you might be trying to restrain someone from getting into a fight. But every single person captured on that video shown throwing an actual punch should be hunted down and severely dealt with and it needs to be publicised that this kind of behaviour is inexcusable under any circumstances and will be dealt with via a prison sentence.

    in reply to: Let’s talk about Lydia Hislop, shall we? #1671393
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    I think the vast majority of SSR presenters struggle with the poor quality of their everyday offer and only get stuck in a bit more when Ascot meetings are on. Ennis, Chapman and Lynch are the exception as they can be relied upon to give their view of whatever is put in front of them. I totally agree with the comment on here about Alex Hammond on SSR …..very little or zero opinion available and plenty of bland parroting.

    in reply to: Irish Derby 2023 #1654232
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    Really depressing to see a classic race ( or any race for that matter) reduced to a farce like this and the winner deliberately allowed first run by a stablemate who clearly wasn’t ridden to try and beat him in my opinion.

    And of course ,nothing will be said or done.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1640592
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    I’m not after a midnight highlights show,I just don’t see the point of trying to reflect what happened by showing jazzily edited replays from funky angles set to music like ITV do that really don’t tell the story… it’s a waste of time and a wasted opportunity to give people who might be attracted to the sport a chance to get an abridged version of the excitement and drama of each day that they may have missed for whatever reason.

    Even with the internet , a terrestrial Tv racing programme on a Saturday after the event (that after all did spend plenty of time referencing the Festival) should be the easiest place to find a summary of what happened rather than assuming their Saturday viewers had all seen it already and all they wanted were pundits not terribly insightful reflections on it.
    Something in the style of how the BBC did Ascot highlights back in the day but built into the Saturday show would be a better record of the event in my opinion .

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1640577
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    I’m not mad on how ITV feel it’s appropriate to intrude on private grief whenever they feel like it by referencing bereavements in connection with particular connections if and when they have a winner .They did it with the Tizzards recently and they overdid it with the De Bromheads this week. I think it’s poor taste to use that angle in order to heighten the significance of a horse race …even at the Festival. If the family choose to reference their loved ones then that is their perfect right but making it the first thing you say to the winning jockey ( like Chapman did) strikes me as poor taste .Ed Chamberlain was hovering around that aspect for a lot of the week.

    My other complaint is for people who missed the racing last week there is no attempt to tell the story of the week by setting up and then showing a replay of the key races with commentary …all you get is chat,music and weird camera angles of the horses passing the post .Why can’t they do what the BBC used to do back in the day each evening of Royal Ascot where if you didn’t know the result you could watch a replay ‘as if live’ with a quick scene set by Julian Wilson followed by the last 2 furlongs of the race with original commentary .
    I’ve spent the week raving to people about what a great advert for the sport Cheltenham ( Tuesday in particular) was but as far as ITV was concerned there was no attempt on Saturday to show it or review it properly .

    in reply to: Is Willie Mullins’ domination boring? #1640576
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    Mullins had something like 76 runners at the festival and 6 winners so I’m not getting carried away with his so called success nor am I convinced that the approach is much different from hit and hope .
    What I am sure about is that its cynical and makes the sport look farcical when owners or trainers are mob handed in any particular race and its therefore unhealthy for the long term survival of the industry.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1632658
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    I’m mostly a big fan of the obvious hard graft that Ruby puts into his punditry but where he appears to be seeking the opinion of his besty AP he somehow manages to make it sound like theirs are the only opinions that could ever be worth listening to :negative: and everyone else seems deliberately excluded from the conversation.

    Throwing to each other in this way might be in response to what they’re told to by the producers and surely Walsh’s occasional arrogance doesn’t include the attitude described above but I’m frequently left feeling sorry for the other presenters as it appears as if they’re being ignored as the 2 former champions massage each other’s egos.

    in reply to: Rishi Persad – what’s the point! #1621827
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    You’re giving yourself away by even mentioning positive discrimination, simply because no such policy actually exists either in the TV industry or any other….only in the minds of individuals who seem unable to discuss others merits without factoring in their ethnicity.

    It is a lazy racist subconscious assumption that it’s impossible for non white people to attain anything without a leg up.

    The irony is that IT IS difficult for non white people to achieve ,precisely because of institutionalised racist attitudes and bias ……yet when they do they face almost automatic accusations of being a ‘diversity hire’ or worse still a ‘beneficiary of positive discrimination’ .

    God forbid that somebody may be of the opinion rightly or wrongly that a non white person is good .

    in reply to: Rishi Persad – what’s the point! #1621765
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    ……and by defaulting to lazy and thoughtless conclusions that individuals only get to where they are because they’re being done favours because they are non-white is IMO the essence of casual racism .

    Criticise Rishi all you like but try to leave his ethnic origin out of it ,the same way you would be expected quite rightly to criticise a female presenter without mentioning her gender ( in order to avoid being sexist). Simple .

    Racists hiding and sniping behind their discomfiture around the diversity drive need to think again if they think anyone is fooled.

    Rishi has been good enough for any TV channel you care to name for many years now long before racist viewers were encouraged to default to their lazy unfounded opinions on non white people appearing on Tv.

    in reply to: Frost/Dunne #1571940
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    Ed Chamberlain on cringe making total arse licking mission today to build bridges with the jockeys after yesterday’s boycott and it’s unbearably heavy handed and assumes that the viewers are incapable of thinking for themselves about this issue and need to be told.

    Only racing could turn an unpleasant fall out between 2 of its protagonists into potential Armageddon for the whole sport’s reputation in the eyes of the casual onlooker.

    Anyone within the industry who has got nothing constructive to say about a personal fallout (the details of which have been upheld in court totally in the complainant’s favour) would do best to realise that ultimately it doesn’t have much to do with them and taking sides and behaving like sulky children really won’t help.Unbelievably embarrassing.

    in reply to: Freddie Tylicki court case #1570915
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    You don’t really understand PC if you genuinely think this can’t be said.

    Tylicki has an equal right to be useless on TV wheelchair or not .

    I completely agree with you…… he’s talks a lot but mostly in cliches.

    Being PC is about not being offensive……pure and simple ….the most worrying thing about it is how the media have manipulated it into something confusing and negative .Don’t fall for it.

    in reply to: Freddie Tylicki court case #1570715
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    Jockeys closing ranks to get Tylicki a nice few Bob from insurers. Nothing to lose.

    in reply to: Frost/Dunne #1570713
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    Hugely disappointing to see what appears to jockeys closing ranks over this matter and the idea of Frost being ostracised is disgusting and it sounds like there’s a lot of jockeys who should be utterly ashamed of themselves for not having the balls to be honest.

    in reply to: Absolutely Jason Weaver #1541299
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    Youre right..Cumani is banal and adds very very little to the coverage but ( I’m a bloke btw) there is a way of reflecting your annoyance or exchanging views with her ( as there is with anyone,male,female,white,non white,able or disabled) that isn’t sexist ( or discriminatory in the other examples) and in the case of avoiding being sexist its not treating her any differently to how you would a man.Simple.

    Weaver tends to make remarks to her that he 100% wouldn’t make to a male member of the team.

    As for Daily Mailers on here ( or elsewhere) who automatically try to stifle any discussion that calls out sexism ,racism and discrimination as ‘political correctness gone mad’etc rather than trying to understand where the offence has been caused or what those issues are about, I’m afraid they need to work out where their discomfiture is rooted or I’m afraid they are the bystanders to or worse the enablers of behaviour that has rightly become unacceptable.
    Male white privilege is a real thing and once you understand it the world makes much more sense.

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