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I think I understand your point, Clive, but, in my experience, the truest and most relevant things trainers say are not in the public domain.
I stick with my original view that the Lester P and Ryan M method is the best way of dealing with pointless, silly, interviews with well-paid media busy-bodies.
Serious punters are unlikely to rely on the public utterances of trainers or pundits, imo.
It is difficult to keep the influence of personal preferences out of decision making, but, my idea of a good trainer would be Jim Dreaper.Finally, here’s something else for the delete button:
KS LOOKED a far better animal at Kempton than he did at Cheltenham, Aintree, and Haydock – BEFORE the race.
Make what you want of that, but don’t expect anyone to tell you.Thanks, SL.
I know that one of the Big3 is making about 350 redundant, at least one of whom is a rep.
It seems the "Machine" has triumphed.
And Katchit was pretty poor on the AW; what I call a "nearly there" horse.
In fact, I think he won only once when with Channon. That was at Salisbury, so not sure about the "handedness".He may come back, but I doubt it myself. Like Kauto Star, he was always lagging a bit behind all the hype, imo.
Of course, I may be wrong. We”ll see.Can any of you guys on-course confirm that one of the Big3 shop bookies is making its rep in the Ring redundant at Lingfield, please?
I know this is the case at other tracks.Obviously, they feel that, nowadays, there is no need for an actual rep on -course.
"SP" is an extremely over-rated nonsense, imo.
Perhaps some will be interested in what i was told last week; one of the Big3 is making cuts. About 350 workers are to go, including a mate of mine who worked on course as the rep who put on the money when instructed.
Now, apparently, this company has decided that they can do without a rep on course at certain small meetings. Redundancy for several on-course reps, I believe.Personally, I never take SP too seriously. I tend to know which books are in the returning quorum, and I try to bet with those who are not.
In fairness to Fister, it may be the case that all the recent trouble at Bangkok airport has disrupted his supply of videos, and, this has meant that he’s had to rely on phone messages from " Connections" for his view as to what happened.
On the other hand, perhaps, he’s changed his views regarding the efficacy of the whip in riding finishes?
Unlicensed laying is the problem with racing. Most racing enthusiasts are middle-aged or elderly, and, besides normal natural wastage, several have left the game because of the sickening amount of non-triers being laid on the Exchanges. It makes a mockery of traditional punting efforts.
The majority of young folk active on track are arbers and bookies’ mates who profit from betting on photos, stewards’ , etc. These techno racing guys and gals will be all for the Machine. They have to be; it’s their income.
None of this is healthy for racing. It cannot go on much longer without a downturn. Some have understood.
Indeed, even the major Exchange has realised that the original " person to person" game is over. Hence the introduction of sillier and sillier measures – including the " anti-sharp-brain" Premium Charge.
The Exchanges are no more permanent than General Motors. UK racing could have managed without them, but recovery from the damage done will be slow and messy, imo.Have you missed this bit, Paul:
" Corporate hospitality organisers should be billed at a minimum of £50 per person belonging to the party; payable in advance, but with NO additional admin cost".
That would cover a large chunk of the " non-racing" paraders at the courses you mentioned, imo.
It would deter the spivs and the free-loaders who just get in the way of those who do want to watch the racing.
Leicester had a reasonable hard-core of racing enthusiasts present the other week when I attended; I paid £10 and was given a voucher that would allow me in for £5 next meeting. Food was reasonably-priced too.
If the northern half of Britain can offer value ( Chester excepted), I fail to see why the overpriced places elsewhere couldn’t get their act together and drag themselves into reasonability.
The MAXIMUM admission fee to ANY UK racecourse for INDIVIDUAL racing enthusiasts should be £10 ( as at December 2008), payable at the turnstyle.
This fee should be applicable to ALL who work at the course, too.Corporate hospitality organisers should be billed at a minimum of £50 per person belonging to the party; payable in advance, but with NO additional admin cost.
The economics of this scheme do stack up. If any course cannot make this a viable proposition, it should be sold to any group who can prove that members are one of the following;
punters, owners, or bookmakers.This could work. If not, racing has had its day.
So, basically,
is it being said that, no matter whether these price moves in question are spotted or not,
the techno "redjackets" on course, together with the inside Exchange suspenders,
have the whole thing sewn up between them?I can’t see what the man has done wrong. It looks to me that RVL are the unreliable ones.
Harsh, if Bauer is disqualified; especially as he should have won, imo.I’m on ( yet again)!
The old campaigner seems to have a great chance, even before I read your post, Alan.
I think the jockey change will be far from negative."Cold and foggy" is my opinion of the weather, btw.
Hmmm. Thanks again, Drone.
" But call it a 30 runner Stewards Cup with 20 starting at 20/1 or more. So in the same way as above 20 x 1.69% = 33.8%. The chances of a 20/1 plus winner is around 2/1. Not really a surprise at all. "
is what Ginger wrote.
I assumed he was referring to Starting Price. It seems I made a wrong assumption.Shh, don’t tell everyone!
Southwell is great, but, it may be best that it remains much maligned and misunderstood.
Thanks for your posts, gentlemen.
I’m currently undergoing a crash course in percentage betting theory, under the guidance of Sir Gingertipster and others, so, the next time I attend the sandpit, I hope to be in top form.Thanks, Drone.
I suppose the bit I really didn’t follow is why we should work out our percentages from the prices the bookies put up ( less their assumed overround), when the " sharper brains" on the Machine – with the 20% better prices – probably have these 20/1 shots at 30, 40, or even 80.
After all, in post after post on here, somebody is usually slagging off the bookmakers and/or singing the praises of the Exchanges.
Just a little confusing, imo.
