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Some great memories among those names. Ubedizzy was one I recall. Didn’t he race in a muzzle, being prone to biting lumps oput of the opposition?
Some great memories in this thread with some magnificent horses mentioned.Andy Crook is now a trainer in Middleham but in those days was stable jockey for Steve Nesbitt and he often talks about the very able sprinter Ubedizzy.
Ubedizzy certainly did bite but unfortunately it was not only other horses. Andy lost most of one finger on his left hand when Ubedizzy bit it off.Even worse Ubedizzy actually ate the finger leaving Andy with just a bit of bone where his upper finger had been.
I am also pretty sure that on another day Ubedizzy attacked a racegoer at Newmarket who was hanging over the rails putting him on to the racecourse and adding a whole new dimension to horse watching !!
In the end Ubedizzy graduated from racing in a muzzle to a lecter type contraption with metal ribbing.
I also remember the early and late jump season ‘stars’ from this era who became my favourites in my early days of punting like Mighty Marine who won 7 consecutive chases in 30 odd days in August-September 1976 and used to run his rivals into the ground.He was trained by Milton Bradley who also trained another similar type in Roc Imp.Fulke Walwyn also had a similar type owned by the Queen Mother called Colonius.They were all horses that attracted quite a following considering the class they were running at.
I’d make a plea for the Naughton thread
not
to be reinstated, please.
I feel he had and has a right not to be held up to repeated slurs on the basis of what (let’s face it) were only
reported
calls from a gentleman whose "previous" with this Forum doesn’t encourage confidence.
I would say there is a difference between the normal tipster and a tv presenter who sells his wares in this way under the express banner of "the ethical edge".Can you not recognise that there is a difference ?
In today’s Kempton article, the MD, Paul Fisher says –
"The highlight in terms of race nights was last summer when we entertained our customers with camel and pig racing after the horseracing action."
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Fisher is not wrong though.
I admire his honesty.The alternative would be for him to pretend that watching that colourless unexciting polytrack trash masquerading as racing was great sport..
If you do email them I wish you more luck than me.I have emailed them with two queries in the past.The first got a reply after 7 emails and only took 5 months before a reply came.The second was never replied to and I ultimately telephoned them whereupon everything was resolved quickly.<br>If you subscribe on line you can watch the channel all afternoon via the racingpost betting web site – analysis and all.I normally mute the sound in case a paddock judge tells me that my good thing looks ready to tail off.Ignorance tends to be both bliss and profit in this circumstance
I would not bet on the Dubai stuff anyway as I do not know enough about it.<br>Good horses or not I find it hard to care at all about those carnival races.The media can keep going ape about the next Dubai race coming up but I am afraid its all lost on me.I care more about todays hurdles and chases at Ayr than what some multi billionaires choose to do with their loose change in the desert.But hey if it keeps them happy and enthrails a few others then good luck to them.
Much of this depends on tha amount of action you have.<br>If you have any quantity of action and your making money from that I do think you have to be careful that you do not keep such complicated records that you spend more time keeping them than concentrating on the races coming up.In these circumstances record keeping can actually have a negative effect on your profitability.<br>These days you can download your results from such as Betfair and then if you need to check something you can go back and do that.<br>You also do not want to kill your enjoyment of the game.
Nothing surprises me any more.I suppose you could sort of expect this from a guy that bleats like a little girl if someone hands over to him 30 seconds before a race starts.Cattermole is by far the worst for that.
"Thats an early handover.Thanks a lot!"<br>"Dont hand over too late will you.I will be talking for 30 seconds  now thanks to that handover."<br>It really gets my goat to hear a guy bleating about this stuff.I would make him work down a mine for a few months and then see if he still bleats on and on about having to chat for 30 secs about horses.<br>
(Edited by Plato at 12:31 pm on Feb. 21, 2007)
Yet despite the performance of those Kempton favourites the shrewd TDK still could not manage to put up a losing lay on the poly when sending those poor sportsman punters to the cardboard boxes under Chelsea Bridge as lay after lay romped home alone on the polytrack.<br>Still as he once said -shrewd punters will find an edge on the poly at Kempton.Presumably the proof of this pudding is in the secret code and not in the eating.<br>Did anyone see the desperate attempts of the Captain and Willo to sell Kempton on RUK at the weekend as they went race by race picking two a go and still could not get one sighted at a finish.
Kempton Aw<br>Wolverhampton<br>Lingfield Aw
Uninteresting racing.Unattractive tracks.Off course bookies fodder racing.<br>Surface never runs two days alike.Everytime someone espouses a theory about these tracks the very next meeting the reverse occurs.Makes every serious punter I know look like a mug.
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After we know the results over 3 meetings we can all point to a brief pattern one way or the other.Over the long term that actually says nothing about whether the racing is reasonably predictable before the races are run or not.In any case chaos does not mean only long price horses winning.That would be all too easy and the opposite of chaos for me.Order comes from some reasonable consistency in patterns and/ or in performances.The problem with Kempton for me is that I can see virtually no consistent pattern that seems to hold. That may be my failing however and good luck to you if you are cleaning up at Kempton.
If someone can turn a profit backing on the Polytrack then good luck to them.Though I know no serious punter that is doing so over the long term.Indeed I know of one off course bookie that analysed his profit levels from his punters on the different codes of racing in his shops and lets just say he can’t get enough of the polytrack and made the comment to me that he would pay for the likes of Great Leighs himself!That was only an analysis of 6 months however.
Blind laying of the favourites can never work because the market adjusts itself and the prices needed to lay on the exchanges would make that almost cetrain to be an unsuccessful strategy in the long term.
Neither am I anti all weather.I used to bet extensively at the old Wolver and at Southwell and on the old Lingfield.I loved the challenge and the patterns that could be used.Now there is only Southwell for me and that has become slightly marginalised because of the lack of similar surfaces.
Purely from a punting point of view I am anti polytrack therefore.That is my experience and three days results at Kempton does not go far in changing that.Judging from the number of punters betting in the ring at Kempton and Lingfield a few others have a similar experience.For my part I go to those tracks rarely these days and when I do go I tend to watch rather than punt.I miss the fun that the old surfaces represented for me.But good luck and well done to someone who is cleaning up on the surface.They deserve their rewards IMO.
Polytrack is very much a surface of chaos so it produces substandard ,bookie biased racing that most punters will find bleeds them dry over the long term.<br>The racing at Kempton is not really racing its pseudo virtual racing fodder this time using real characters.<br>It is catering for bookmakers AND the xmas corporate market.The twilight meetings attract the xmas office party crowd and have been aggressively marketed as such.Thats why there are so many of them just now.<br>I used to be much less tolerant than this and would have called for its abolition immediately but these days I am happy to let them build what they want and put on whatever racing they want.As someone has already said on this thread we do not have to go there and we do not have to bet on it.
(Edited by Plato at 6:40 pm on Nov. 25, 2006)
Desperate sad news and my hearfelt feelings go to you and the rest of his family and friends.<br>I have been a member here from almost the start when Craig came onto the old channel 4 site and told us of his intention to start this web site.Although I never met him I did speak to him on the phone a few years ago and it was clear how much he cared about this web site and that was the reason why this web site was such a success.he clearly loved his racing.<br>My thoughts and prayers are with you.
