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  • #33816
    Plato
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    Kempton Aw<br>Wolverhampton<br>Lingfield Aw

    Uninteresting racing.Unattractive tracks.Off course bookies fodder racing.<br>Surface never runs two days alike.Everytime someone espouses a theory about these tracks the very next meeting the reverse occurs.Makes every serious punter I know look like a mug.

    #33817
    Avatar photoempty wallet
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    Quote: from Plato on 12:06 am on Dec. 18, 2006[br]Kempton Aw<br>Wolverhampton<br>Lingfield Aw

    Uninteresting racing.Unattractive tracks.Off course bookies fodder racing.<br>Surface never runs two days alike.Everytime someone espouses a theory about these tracks the very next meeting the reverse occurs.Makes every serious punter I know look like a mug.

    PMSL, sorry Plato

    this crap just cracks me up m8

    (Edited by empty wallet at 1:39 am on Dec. 18, 2006)

    #33818
    indocine
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    A bit of opportunism but I would ban the AW track at Musselburgh. The R&A seem not to give a monkeys about this proposed sacrilege which is shameful. The council don’t give a monkeys coz all they’re interested in is a new revenue. stream The existing track was built (mostly) around the golf course when heritage meant nothing which is understandable, but to butcher it once again for the sake of poor horses running on tyres under floodlights is crazy. I don’t even like golf but to start digging up greens at a place that is 400 years old, the oldest course in the world and where the first 4 open championships were played just seems entirely crass and vulgar beyond belief.<br>

    #33819
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 12:05 am on Dec. 18, 2006[br]

    And some of you would get rid of Nottingham?  Why?

    Great shame they got rid of the NH course as it was a very fair track, akin to Worcester. Enjoyed my occasional visits though haven’t been back since.

    #33820
    Seagull
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    Nothing wrong with Brighton.<br>I would get rid of <br>kempton aw<br>windsor<br>folkestone flat

    #33821
    clivex
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    Always baffled by this hostility to Kempton…but the AW track maybe was a mistake and they should have concentrated on the much needed east london course instead. Having said that, Kempton’s flat programme was nothing special anyway (and has been transferred). But its a realxed course (except boxing day) with decent viewing

    Flat        Catterick. Not been there but looks a bit ragged and theres no shortage of courses around there. Epsom is somewhere i dislike too

    Jumps    Sedgefield was pretty horrible when i visited

    If i could get rid of a festival, it would be royal ascot. Embarrassing waste of good racing

    #33822
    stevedvg
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    Talking of courses, when will Great Leighs open?

    It’s 18th December and my 2006 (yes, 2006) Wm Hill diary has it marked on their map. However, no racing.

    What’s going on?

    Catterick….theres no shortage of courses around there

    Eh?

    Steve

    #33823
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    I’d be inclined to say

    AW – Southwell<br>Flat – Southwell<br>NH – Southwell

    Job done! :biggrin:

    #33824
    apracing
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    <br>Steve,

    First meeting is now scheduled for Feb 22nd, using temporary stands in the centre of the track, with the main grandstand due to open in September.

    They are currently paying £15,000 per fixture for the meetings that are being transferred to other tracks, so they have a significant incentive to hit that target.

    AP

    #33825
    davidbrady
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    Quote: from apracing on 1:33 pm on Dec. 18, 2006[br]They are currently paying £15,000 per fixture for the meetings that are being transferred to other tracks, so they have a significant incentive to hit that target.

    Do you mean in terms of lost revenue or are they actually physically paying money to other tracks to take their fixtures. If it’s the 2nd one, then why? Surely the other AW tracks are more than happy to have increased fixtures and revenue themselves without fleecing an, as yet, unopened course as well.

    #33826
    stevedvg
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    with the main grandstand due to open in September.

    September??!

    According to my diary, the course was meant to be opened in early October 2006.  

    Steve

    #33827
    clivex
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    Catterick….theres no shortage of courses around there

    Eh?

    Yes! Has any part of the country as many courses relative to population as North Yorkshire?

    #33828
    apracing
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    DB,

    My understanding is that Great Leighs are paying out that amount. The other AW tracks certainly aren’t that keen on taking these fixtures at short notice, because they can’t find sponsors or sell the corporate or restaurant facilities. So they don’t make any money from them.

    The penalty is imposed by the BHB and was part of the open bidding process for fixtures that was introduced after the OFT investigation. Great Leighs knew the rules when they stated they would be ready to open in October 2006.

    AP

    #33829
    Avatar photoRacing Daily
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    The temporary stand is the same stand that was used for this year’s Ryder Cup in Ireland.<br>By all accounts, it’s a rather grand structure.  I believe they are buying it outright.

    #33830
    clivex
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    The sniping at the Great leighs project is so very strange (not saying that about this thread, but elsewhere and overall)

    Could this be the only sport in the world whos followers are so conservative that they begrudge expansion? And into an area which is starved of a local track too, with probably loads of local punters dying to see racing at an accessible location?

    Would have thought that with this being the case, The BHB should be doing everything possible to make this a success

    #33831
    insomniac
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    Newmarket – might as well watch it on telly through the wrong end of a telescope.

    Bangor-on-Dee – always rains when I go there.

    Carlisle – all the atmosphere of Pluto.

    #33832
    davidbrady
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    Quote: from clivex on 3:03 pm on Dec. 18, 2006[br]The sniping at the Great leighs project is so very strange (not saying that about this thread, but elsewhere and overall)

    Could this be the only sport in the world whos followers are so conservative that they begrudge expansion? And into an area which is starved of a local track too, with probably loads of local punters dying to see racing at an accessible location?

    Would have thought that with this being the case, The BHB should be doing everything possible to make this a success

    That’s because AW racing has such a bad name so more of the same is not necessarily a good thing. As I said earlier on this thread, I have nothing against dirt/sand racing as such, but the quality of AW racing in UK leaves a lot to be desired

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