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Could this be Dawn Approach’s next stop? Magician could go down the mile option, Goodwood after Ascot? With Farrh injured, Snow Fairy precocious, could be worth a back to lay option on Camelot. I really dislike him, and glad to take him on, but if he turns up, will likely be around evens.
I can virtually guarantee you that Magician is going to the Eclipse (barring accidents of course).
Magician ran and won at Chester and two weeks later he ran in the Irish Guineas. After the Irish Guineas they considered running in the Derby but did not. Why? Had they considered him their best horse they could have skipped the Irish Guineas and gone for the English Derby with him, their best horse, no? I believe that Joseph would have ridden him in the Derby had he thought that he(Magician) was better that BoM. So, when did Aidan decide that Magician was better than BoM and RotW? Does he still hold to this opinion after the Derby? Did Moore’s opinion enter the mix? Fascinating conundrum.
This post hits the nail on the head as to where the ‘best 3-y-o in the yard’ opinion comes from. And it’s not often that he’s wrong – he as in the man in the know, not andyod
The horse was never going to Epsom, but having won so easily over 10f at Chester, and never coming out of a canter to win the Irish Guineas, they left it in just in case something happened to BoM. The thinking was he could win a 12F contest which was full of non-stayers – one being himself perhaps.
But the fact that RoW won the Derby is the biggest plus of all. Magician is regarded much better than him, something reiterated again at the weekend by the yard (or someone very close to the yard).
They could, they could.
Not sure what connections think of RotW after his Derby victory, but a month ago (before Chester) Magician was thought of as their top three-year-old, some way ahead RotW.
And crucially he’s expected to be a 10f horse and no further, hence we’ll see him at Royal Ascot and then Sandown.
Still baffled as to why they left him in the Derby last Monday, but I’m glad he didn’t go there.
So the plan for me is to see him win at Royal Ascot, and then lock in some decent profits once he’s as short as 3.5-4.0 for the Eclipse
If only it were that simple, but there’s no harm in hoping.
apparently it was Nicholls decision that Kauto left the yard this afternoon. They decided this at a team meeting this morning.
Wake up and smell the coffee Kenh. The previous poster’s are absolutely correct, this is very bad taste on PN’s part.
Sky Sports News ran a ticker feed this morning saying Kauto would definitely go to dressage, so PN thought it best to get his worth in first, and declared that he no longer wanted Kauto in his stables. How much of that is true we’ll never know.
But the fact is, Clive Smith is the owner of Kauto and can do whatever he sees fit with the horse. For PN to come out and says he wasn’t consulted in the decision is crazy… how many dressage champions has he managed? If I were looking for a future dressage star, neither would I consult PN!
So a message to PN. The horse isn’t yours to own, get over yourself you arrogant git and accept what the owner decides. How many other reitred horses have you cared for this much? Do they have to win Grade 1 races before you consider retired horses worthy of looking after and falling out with owners worthwhile. Or are you… as I suspect… this arrogant all the time?
Maybe you should concentrate on what you do have at Ditcheat, rather than those you no longer have.
I’ve got that illness, Alzei…. sorry, I can’t remember what it is. But anyway, I must have listened to thousands of race commentaries over the last 25 years and I can honestly say, by an absolutely mile, Matt Chapman is the worst race caller I’ve ever listened to.
The other day he didn’t even call the names of the horses, he was so busy telling us the breeding of the horses and by the time the finish line approached he was saying something like, "And in first it’s the son of Gallileo" etc.
And there was another time he was calling the race by jockey names.
He is awful – get rid of him, the sooner the better.
And Kenh, my final point on this is this.
Are you then saying, that at a Cheltenham Festival, they only have three boards to doll of a fence that is much much wider than a standard NH fence?
Isn’t the reason a fence is dolled off usually because a jockey or horse is still stricken at the landing side? So why is a fence dolled off perfectly 99% of the time when this happens, yet during the Champion Chase, they couldn’t do it?
Or do jockeys only get this ‘added protection treatment’ at Cheltenham, thus leaving half the fence available to be jumped?
Put simply mate, if a jockey falls at Plumpton on a Monday afternoon and a fence is fully dolled off to protect him, then they SHOULD be able to do it at a Cheltenham Festival.
Argue until you’re blue in the face Kenh, but you know I’m right and that what happened during the Champion Chase was a farce.
And Kenh, you’re point about a loose horse jumping the fence makes no sense either.
We are going back to the boards across the fence again. One placed on the left of the fence (in front of the injured party), one towards the centre of the fence, and one towards the right of the fence.
That would mean the whole fence is dolled off, no horse/jockey/loose horse would attempt to jump the fence, hence the injured party were safe from more ‘falling horses’, loose or not.
All boards towards the left of the fence (as it was) then meant a loose horse, or a horse/jockey could have jumped the fence towards the centre, fell and skidded left-handed towards the injured party.
Admit it, it was a cock-up.
"As you’ve said"
Maybe try explaining then Kenh instead of just saying!
Added protection. What added protection? It was a cock-up, admit it.
Moving the boards meant that the horses could have jumped the fence, and landed pretty close to the injured party. Am I correct? Of course I am. And in that case, if by moving the boards, the fence could have been jumped, then could a horse have fell left-handed onto the injured party? Of course it could.
Now let’s leave the boards where they were initially placed, right across the fence. Could any horse have jumped the last fence? NO.
So please explain, WHY, by moving the boards to the inside, did that add protection to the injured party? All it served to do was add confusion and increase the possibility of one of the horses jumping the last, and heavens forbid, falling left-handed into the injured jockey.
Admit it, it was a farce.
I know few have been critical of Channel 4 already this week but it just goes from bad to worse.
I’m watching Wednesday’s highlights show and Alice Plunkett has just said (on the Champion Chase), "So a race that was full of drama; and that drama began at just the second fence when Wishful Thinking and Richard Johnson fell…"
Well excuse me love, it wasn’t the second fence, it was the fourth.
Fair enough if you are reporting this immediately after the race, but this is a highlights show that has been recorded in darkness (so at least three hours after the race) and you can’t even report simple facts. What’s worse is the fact that no-one from the Channel 4 team has picked up on this mistake and had it edited before the show went out at midnight.
Plunkett then went on to say Henderson, "broke the all-time record yesterday (meaning Tuesday) having had 41 winners to become the winning most trainer here of all time and he added to that by having four winners here (Wednesday)".
Well sorry again, but on Tuesday he only equalled the record, not broke it.
I know it may be trivial to some, but listening to crap like this, especially when recorded with every opportunity to get the facts right, is very annoying.
Looks like RUK for me tomorrow then.
Forgive me for not knowing the names of the people involved in this incident but I’m amazed that everyone has avoided the obvious question.
The incident happened and ‘boards’ were put across the final fence to signal that the last fence wasn’t to be jumped. The ‘boards’ were then moved to the inside of the fence. The obvious question is, WHY?
Now I’m no brain surgeon, but if the boards were left where they were supposed to be, and in the place that signalled clearly that the jockeys/horses were to omit the final fence, then all horses would have went around the final fence no problem.
By moving the boards to the inside, the jockeys/horses still went around the final fence, but with confusion.
So what the hell did moving the boards achieve? The stricken jockey and photographer were on the inside of the course. Moving the three boards to the inside of the fence meant that a horse could have jumped the last fence to the right of the boards and then fell left-handed into the injured party. Leaving the boards where they were initially would have meant all horses went around the fence (just like they eventually did thankfully).
So the question is, why were the boards moved?
Baffled!
"The Hills Are Alive With The Sound of Irish."
They may not be as famous as Julie, but Andrews and Walters certainly done your boys proud tonight. I love seeing the Irish at major championships, your fans are absolutley fantastic.
Good luck.
A better question is why wasn’t this, the best race of the day on Channel 4? The cross country bores me and I can’t see why an amateur riders race is supposed to be more important/exciting.
Can see (and agree) with your thinking Phil, but at least we only have three or four Cross Country Chases per year, and I don’t mind seeing them, they are something different. Novice Chase’s are run daily, though not on a scale of today’s class so I can see your point.
I believe Joe Tizzard said **** and Tom Scudamore said Yipee!!!!
Yeh lol.
Just got home and seen it on TV and it looked nowhere near as bad as it really was, but then that’s what TV cameras do, make it look bright.
I bet Joe Tizzard’s real words were on the lines of, "****, where did that fence come from?" And when Grand Crux missed one I bet Scudamore said something like, "What did we just hit, I didn’t see anything?"
All’s well that ends well though, and everyone’s safe and sound so no more to be said on it. I just wish the BHA wouldn’t cut it so fine (scheduling races so close to darkness), but then, when have the BHA got anything correct?
Two fallers, Grand Crux walked through a fence.
No evidence to suggest it was due to darkness but that was disgraceful. Will be interesting to read what the jockeys say.
Well it’s almost dark now according to William Hill Radio.
I hope common sense prevails and the last race is postponed, and run either tomorrow or Sunday with a few tweaks to the card.
But no doubt the horses will be made to run in the dark. Defies belief the scheduling of this race. Pathetic doesn’t even come close.
I use Twitter to post my Betfair blogs… I have 10 followers (and nine of those I bribed) so it doesn’t seem to work for me
I’ll keep persisting though, and I’ll start by following the good folk on here who have provided Twitter names. So that’s;
Kenneth and Emma then
My Twitter name is MikkyMo73, though I’m out of bribes
May I also add Ian that it appears we are both in agreement regarding the wearing of a poppy and what it stands for.
Our difference of opinion is regarding the FA, you seem to be of the view ‘later rather than never’, whereas I’m of the view ‘why not sooner’.
Fair enough if the poppy just appeared on the shirts this year without a word being said by the FA, but the fact that they are now going to the lengths they appear to be, when they haven’t give a damn in previous years, sickens me.
