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  • in reply to: Racing Post Gripes #411911
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    This:

    PICTURE DEALER
    3 b.g Gary Moore 89+ k 96
    Pedigree : ROYAL APPLAUSE – TYCHY (SUAVE DANCER (USA))
    Owner : Mr R. A. Green
    Comment: brother to 2010 2-y-o 7f winner Little Curtsey and half-brother to 7f winner Paphos (by Oasis Dream): dam 5f to 7f winner: fair performer: won maiden at Brighton (by 2¼ lengths from Ta Ajabb) in June: evens, value for extra when won 5-runner handicap there last time by 1½ lengths from Millibar, readily: stays 6f: acts on soft going: often travels strongly: still unexposed.

    Well for Picture Dealer you obviously get the breeding etc and

    Spotlight:
    Up-and-coming sprinter who looked promising when making up a lot of ground and unlucky at Doncaster in June (6g, good); didn’t do himself justice at Sandown next time (soft, has won on that ground) but authoritative success at Brighton last month and has some scope off 5lb higher mark despite this more challenging company.

    and Breeding Comment:
    14,500gns Y, E90,000 2yo; third foal; brother to 7f AW winner Little Curtsey, half-brother to 7f AW winner Paphos; dam fairly useful 5f-7f winner at 3-5yrs, out of a fairly useful 5f winner.

    Which is broadly the same as the Character Summary I think.

    Agree the pictures look incredible. Something which I never took notice of really in the paper version but you do find yourself pausing on some of them.

    Main negatives for me would be no greyhound cards (token greyhound content really), that you can’t set it to automatically download overnight and the result and analysis are on different tabs (horrible idea). Fair value at £25 per month and I’ll probably pay it when my trial runs out. Definitely worth trying if you have an iPad anyway.

    in reply to: Racing Post Gripes #411882
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    I asked B Millington on twitter some months ago if the RP could produce a character summary for each horse, as Timeform do, above the standard formline.

    "It will be in the iPad version" he said.

    Is it?

    Not sure what you mean by character summary – spotlights? If so they are in the iPad version as part of the horses form page.

    Top class product for me. Well worth the trial.

    in reply to: O’Brien – Listen Do You Realise How Bad That Looks? #377030
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    Nice story about Aidan in the aftermath of St Nicholas Abbey, in today’s editorial by Jonathan Mullin in the Irish Racing Post.

    In my opinion, he is obviously a complex character and while his training ability is not in question one would have to wonder whether he would have ‘made it’ had he had to be the typical salesman trainer pandering to owners.

    in reply to: 3.10 Curragh #365086
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    Is it possible both rides were made to look worse than they were by the (eventual) 3rd and 5th horses tiring? Anyway, in my opinion Kirinda is a headcase and the way she was ridden gave her the best chance of winning the race. It was just unlucky that the winner ran on really well. Anyway, that’s just my opinion and can see why some would disagree but I wouldn’t be surprised if Kirinda proves in time to be a total screw.

    in reply to: Unaccompanied #354599
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    DK’s interview live on RTÉ about a quarter of an hour before the race would explain the drift on Unaccompanied.

    Bingo. For a trainer who is normally very positive about his chances, especially with his better horses, he couldn’t have been more negative. I’m not saying every layer was watching RTE, but those who were would have increased their original lays by multiples.

    in reply to: Pricewise #349950
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    Captain Chris at 16s (Tom said on the day of the race that he didn’t believe for a second that he’d have enough pace to win)

    Dug out my RP from the day in question. Pricewise page 35 “Captain Chris would be a huge threat if he gets his jumping act together and I don’t think for one minute he doesn’t have the pace to cope with a strongly run two miles.”

    In form or out of form, you don’t tip up a horse to be the first 7yo in 71 years to win a National. There are stats, then there are

    stats

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    To tip up Quinz was lunacy.

    I must remember next year that a 7yo can not win the national. Well done on your winning lay.

    To be honest I wish I had listened to him re Captain Chris – laid the horse heavily myself.

    in reply to: Pricewise Extra #347024
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    Surely a coincidence that two members who joined on the same day (2 days ago) are having a little chat about checking results on a site, of which one of the members is the owner?

    in reply to: BHA Ratings spreadsheet – one for Ireland ? #343083
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    Try http://www.goracing.ie ?

    in reply to: Casela Park 3.50 Newcastle #319992
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    I take it you’ve seen the scout camera and head on footage then? The only way anyone can make an absolute judgement in this case was by viewing all footage to test the excuses of the rider. Behan could have been exonerated if his claims had been borne out, but I’ll happily take the judgement of the panel that the head-on was damning.

    Not only have I not seen he scout footage of this race, I don’t think I have ever seen any scout footage of any race. Are these available publicly anywhere?

    TDK – if you want to come in and watch the DVD you’re more than welcome.

    Why not host this on the BHA website?

    in reply to: Casela Park 3.50 Newcastle #319804
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    Excellent piece by Andrew Scutts today on pg4 of the Racing Post. The defendants lack of representation was more than unsatisfactory. I would dearly love to see what a barrister would make of the claims of the future betting coup, how the panel can conclude that "it would have won", how Tyrell had caused Behan to ride like he did, etc etc

    I will declare that I don’t think the incident was as bad as many people are making out, and wouldn’t make the top 10 stopping jobs this year in my opinion.

    Can we assume a higher profile trainer/jockey will be subjected to the same level of scrutiny next time they strangle one? We all know that would be trading at a 1000. Why is that?

    in reply to: Simon Rowlands on Cape Blanco #316671
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    Not nearly as simple as some of its analysts! :roll:
    Andrew Beyer pointed out (over 30 years ago) the phenomenon of horses running fast times off uncontested leads being unable to replicate them when challenged by horses of similar class.
    It remains every bit as true now as it was then, and is proven time and time again in contemporary racing.

    Is this why Rip won last years Sussex running an uncontested lead and being able to kick early but couldn’t replicate it this year?

    Not that simple I’m afraid.

    in reply to: Graham Bradley back riding under rules next week #316668
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    I was very impressed with Mr Swan yesterday. If you didn’t know who the jockeys were you would bet 10 on he was a pro riding against amateurs. Perhaps if he had made his comeback that time to take the Brave Inca ride things could have been so different!

    Overall, I enjoyed watching some of the jockeys back riding and think it is a fantastic idea – if only they could raise the legends bar a small bit higher!

    in reply to: Simon Rowlands on Cape Blanco #316666
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    Whatever about the horse, this race is further evidence that Heffernan is one of the finest jockeys around when riding form the front (ridnig form anywhere else though is a different story :roll: )

    in reply to: Perfect example of Spencer over doing it! #316665
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    Contrary to most opinion put forward in this thread, Jamie Spencer did not, for a single stride, take it easy on Wigmore Hall, pushing the horse out vigorously to the line.

    But he wasn’t as vigorous 5 or 6 strides before the line as he was 20 or 2 strides out. He thought he had the race won, sat up a little in the saddle and was mugged. That’s how I see it anyway.

    in reply to: Betfair Drifters 2010 #307781
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    Cavelino, I deleted my post because I figured it was going down the road of me nosing into your business which wasn’t my attention and fair play to you for putting up these figures which take a lot of time and cost to produce (sadly, I know).

    Just for the record I have found that the last price matched or betfair sp (agree with your figures on the differential btw) to

    not

    be a fair indicator of the market at the off (the real off that is – not the betfair suspend) often enough to use it in any analysis.

    Bets of luck with your punting anyway.

    in reply to: Betfair Drifters 2010 #307772
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    in reply to: Betfair Drifters 2010 #307731
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    As for things reaching the big zero, the 2009 figures are much the same in many cases. :o

    The past is history, this thread should make for very interesting reading in 2011/12. People think they are big market swings at the moment!

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