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The game’s all about opinions, Phil, and I disagree.
From what I saw, Noble Request jumped poorly in rear early on, giving the impression he was rusty, made good headway on to the heels of the leaders 3 out, couldn’t sustain it and was given an easy time. I suspect if Johnson had hit the horse half a dozen times it would have made little difference to the outcome.
For what it’s worth I didn’t have a bet in the race either.
Old Benny
: missed last season after getting injured in a field… big and backward… first aim is Welsh National, so hope to have him ready to run end of Nov/start of Dec… doesn’t over-exert himself at home, so could be ring-rusty… later on, Grand National might come into consideration – he’s been dropped to mark of 135 following year off.
Silverburn
: a very interesting recruit… classy on his day for Nicholls… disappointing after Paddy Power, but might be well handicapped now… shows plenty in his work at home, and we may just try something different… it won’t be a big handicap straight away, instead we might go over hurdles.
High Chimes
: really thought he’d win Welsh National after solid Hennessy run but cut himself during race and disappointed… great effort under top weight in Kim Muir… might start him off in novice hurdle just to try to get his head in front, then back to long-distance handicap chases.
Hugh Taylor’s approach is the more logical.
There are certainly times when I read Tom’s arguments with a shaking head. But his tipping record
appears
to be impressive, which makes the Post’s policy of not publishing a profit/loss account all the more baffling.
Both Segal and Taylor are good tipsters imo.
Indeed, Pengamon.
The Cheltenham management are doing their best to ruin the meeting with a steady dilution of quality.
Ideally, there’d be 3 days of 6 races each, kicking off with the Supreme Novices and finishing with the Cathcart.
Fair play to the three of you.
But I’m happy to spend the price of a couple of pints a week to be able to watch quality coverage of all the races from Cheltenham, Wincanton, Aintree, Wetherby, Bangor, Ludlow and Newbury.
Name the people on this thread who personally know Hugh Taylor.
I’ve never met the bloke, and I’d be surprised if "most" of the people on this thread have, either.
You sound like a bitter man, Honk.
Post by stilvi » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:47 pm
If Pricewise really is that special why have you never printed any profit/loss figures?Good question, Stilvi.
For that matter, let’s have full figures for the sports tipsters. And how about a profit/loss account for the Trading Post team, whose contributors appear to be taking over the paper yet whose efforts seem especially hapless?
I’m essentially a satisfied customer. I buy the paper every day and have welcomed improvements in a number of areas over the last few years, notably in the Features department (the Sunday edition in particular is usually a good read).
But a modicum of integrity wouldn’t go amiss. Don’t celebrate your West Country correspondent’s 2/1-winner Seven Is My Number (in a race in which his only other possible selection was a 33/1-shot) when the same horse was Trading Post’s Lay Of The Day.
Hi Gumshield. Thanks for the kind words on RPSUNDAY. With regard to the whole issue of PL figures, we do not put ourselves up as a paid-for tipping service and are thus not obliged to do so. When I was sports editor, I remember deciding we should keep figures for all tips. So my then deputy Paul Kealy did it. It took up about two days per week of his time and after three months we were handsomely in profit despite a loss of more than 300 points on some quarterback supremacy spread tip disaster, so we aborted the mission safe in the knowledge that we were basically doing a decent job. However, I agree the flagging up of the 2-1 winner was not very clever. I think when we put up decent winners we have every right to let people know, but that one was not great by any means.
I’m not going to guess what the average punter wants to see.
But, personally, I’d keep the curtains shut if I lived in a house overlooking Kempton Park.
I’m more of a jumps enthusiast these days, but I have to agree with Clive. A small field, but a good race. Plenty of excitement and high-class performances from the first two.
The addition of a couple of pacemakers and a handful of second-raters would not have made it a better race. Quite the opposite, in fact.
I’ve always thought that it was the job of the Punter to adjust for today’s conditions and trainerform etc.
Indeed. But that’s not the way it works, Gerald.
Handicappers at the Racing Post and Timeform are judged on their results/strike-rate, and it’s generally not in their best interest to have out-of-form 50/1-shots as their top-rated horses. Given that the BHA handicapper often drops horses quickly if they perform poorly on several consecutive outings, these horses are soon going to be top-rated if the Racing Post/Timeform handicapper sticks strictly to the “best rating of the last 12 months” policy.
Obviously, very occasionally a horse will suddenly return to form and a long-priced winner will be missed.
Racing Post Ratings are adjusted/fiddled for each race at the overnight stage to take into a number of factors, including trip/ground conditions and trainer form.
This is standard practice, and Timeform do exactly the same.
The reason is straightforward: to ensure that the horses considered by the handicapper to have the best chances of running well have the highest adjusted ratings.
Hugh Taylor seems a good judge and a pleasant bloke, which makes you wonder what he’s doing on ATR.
High-visibility jackets are usually handed out at the turnstiles at Kempton to make it easier to spot fellow racegoers.
