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I’m one of those in the minority on Hoiles, but some good points here.
Next time listen to when he takes a breath while commentating. Few and far between, not a bad thing but leaves me breathless.I just think ITV have too many presenters, and would say on this alone they have made their programme more about people than the horses.
They are trying to deliver a slick polished product, but I prefer presenters being a bit rough around the edges.
Blackcountry Kid, they do love an interview don’t they. Everything has to be so perfect.
Used to love hearing Francome who always sounded like he had a cold, John Tyrell who read out the results and sounded like he had one tooth in his head.
With ITV nowadays it is MORE about the people and not the horses, that’s why they have a dozen of them at a time on there!Hoiles, Hoiles, Hoiles!
Great knowledge of racing, but oh that voice. Boring monotone he tries to inject excitement into it but he just hasn’t got a voice for commentating. For commentary it’s like having a voice for radio, but only some have got the chords for it.
During the national I did like ITV’s attempt to mirror the BBC by having a few commentators doing different parts of the course and handing over. In this case though Hoiles would have been better off in the country around fences 1-6, not there at the finish.I still think this programme could do a lot better.
Pro’s
Chapman – The programme needs characters.
Luke Harvey – Sensible analysis.
Coverage from a number of courses.Con’s
The music.
The Irish lads – They would be more at home at Leopardstown or the Curragh.
Too many presenter’s, and not very good ones at that. The two in the Pro’s box above are okay, but the programme needs another strong character. Why have at least TWELVE people there.
Richard Hoiles – Needs to take a breath. Does not have to jabber away for the whole race. Monotone voice.
Too much about one horse on the day, the other owners must be fed up with them banging on about other horses. Chamberlin is terrible for that.Must have been the late sixties where my Dad took me to Norfolk to see an old soldier mate of his. I remember seeing many more windmills then than you see today.
On the way back, he took me to Newmarket and forgive me if I’m wrong as it’s been a long time but sure I backed a winner from my ‘first bet’ called Damastown at 8/1.Well, again we are the silent majority appears, but what force is out there keeping us quiet, the media.
Just when is all this PC nonsense going to stop?
Who is going to make a stand because if you do in isolation, your literally shot down, career ended, vilified.One other thing. Yes we like favourite horses but the way they go on about some of them is way over the top. Tiger Roll, Altior etc. And when they fail they shut up.
It must make other horse owners fed up keep hearing certain names all the time and not their charges. Just like in football, all you hear about is Liverpool and Man U and if the other team win, the former must of had an off day!
Bet Chamberlain was telling his kids yesterday “only 11 months to your advent calendar’s”, and will bang on about that to them every month now til then poor b…….!
Well I supposed it spared us the monotone voice of Richard Hoiles in this instance!
Okay, it was an experiment, a first, but hopefully a last. Perhaps these three were told to earn their money! Really nice people but all I hear from Fitzgerald are the words blarney, blarney, blarney. I am sure he says them every now and again.Look, there are just too many presenters on ITV racing. Go on, there are over a dozen of them you can’t go anywhere on the track and fart without one of them hearing you.
That’s brilliant thanks espmadrid. I seem to remember an ‘oh no’ going up when he made that mistake with Young Ash Leaf running on.
Thanks again.
Haha. Just need some footage from someone now!Thanks very much for this Rob.
It’s been such a long time, and at an age, I wondered if I had made this all up.
Thanks for sending this through.
Tipperwood might have been second favourite at those prices.Just too many presenters ‘with an opinion’. Just talk and talk and talk.
No prejudice here or anything, when they used to go over places like the Curragh etc, we used to be met with the voice of Michael O’Hare and another Irish racing presenter. It was great. Gave Irish racing that uniqueness.Now we have so many irish chaps on the microphone here, we have lost our identity a bit. I am sure when listening to Fitgerald, all I can hear is the words blarney, blarney, blarney. I am sure he says those words, that’s what it sounds like anyway!
All we need are a few presenters, not a cast of thousands, who sort of disagree with each other from time to time but have a bit of character about them as well.
From seeing Chapman on the ‘lesser’ racing channels, he was just the same as he is now. That’s what attracted ITV racing to their ‘show’, with a cast of thousands.
That’s probably a recipe for success if you like, people a bit out of the ordinary, with an opinion, with a bit of character.
If you look at most of the sorry mess cast on ITV racing, they are pretty boring lot on the whole, so it’s easy to stand out.I’d like a few more ‘characters’ in there, and a lot less people who just chat and chat for chat’s sake.
And of course at present, we have the virus hanging over everyone everywhere. There’s no ‘recruitment’ going on as people can’t attend.
I love watching racing and only bet from time to time if I fancy it. We shouldn’t forget attached to the sport is gambling and a lot of people have got into problems because of it. Have a few winners and you see it as a new income, but we know you should enjoy the good times as those winning streaks will run out.
That’s another reason why people like it, the buzz, even at those early ages mentioned in the OP.
As a spectacle, there’s probably no better sport, but I don’t think anyone should ‘push’ anyone towards racing. It’s often attached to gambling and there’s a lot of naive inexperienced people who can quickly get into difficulty.
Again, especially at those ages mentioned in the OP should we be ‘driving’ this age group towards the sport. This age group which probably has less money than anyone and are easily turned if they see a good thing as in a few winners and some short lived extra money.Do you know what as I type, I go more against the idea of actively trying to get youngsters to attend or be interested for the latter reasons above.
I remember the BHA or was it Great British racing came up with an ‘initiative’ to get students ‘interested’ in racing.
Trouble was, and it didn’t take much working out if they were in touch with real life but there was one major flaw. Students haven’t got any money!If this thread is about recruitment and the next generation so to speak, the ONLY way to get kids interested in racing is making sure their parents bring them along. One would then hope that the experience rubs off on them and when they can afford or able to go themselves, that is your ‘natural’ way of recruitment.
I am sure it’s always been like this, bitten by the bug at an early age when you visit.
