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Come on, this is getting ridiculous. It’s the Gosdens almost every time a jockey gets it wrong. No owner complains, if the trainer is unable to win races with a multi-million pound purchase. If that would be the case Godolphin would have had at least 20-30 trainers in GB or FRA.
They should get over it instead of stirring up so much drama. How many times do trainers disappoint when failing to pick the right race for a horse or having it fit 1st time out?It is true, as LD pointed out, that Moore is one of the jockeys who stands out when it comes to reading a race and making far less mistakes than the rest. But, the entire discussion about Kieran Shoemark is overly exaggerated.
I bet no one really wants to work with the Gosden duo. Riding their horses yes, but not listening to their lectures afterwards in case things don’t go according to plan.
Thanks for the link ap. I had Coulton on my mind, but forgot completely about Monkerhostin.
This would be some kind of incentive for the raiding party, a 2 or 3 lbs. allowance. But it wouldn’t make sense when the Irish come over. Cromwell and Co. will make sure that they already have a rating of at least half a stone lower when entered for Cheltenham.
I think something else will happen: Hendo and Buckley will seek advice from some jumping gurus like Yogi Breisner (though he left Newmarket in 2021) or maybe someone like Henrietta. The horse was having any fun yesterday and I think NH should be having that while competing in a race.
It could be a summer holiday, but he’ll be quite active on the jumping front. He ran with zero confidence yesterday.And this was said four months prior to my above post
This was when they decided against the novice chasing campaign
My mistake about the age and I don’t hate the horse. But the hype around him and I quite frankly dislike his connections. Too many excuses surrounding Hendo’s horses.
State Man, just like GDC and all other Mullins horses always shows up and there is far less hype about them. None of them has reached the 116 level on any known forum.“Are you saying today’s performance is as good as Constitution Hill has ever put up?”
Of course not. But the 17L beating of an 11-year old mare at Kempton in 2022 or the 10L beating of Rubaud and First Street in 2023 are no special feats.
This is latest news about the Hill:
A visibly distraught Nicky Henderson tried to find the words to explain what he had seen from Constitution Hill, who was examined by an IHRB vet post-race and found to have grazes to his right hind cannonbone and to be sore.
“It’s disappointing but it’s a tough game,” the crestfallen trainer said. “It was sad he had to be beaten that way because you could live with going down in a battle. He was beaten two out and James looked after him. Something has obviously gone wrong because that’s not him and our job is to try to unravel the mystery.
“He’s got such a great mind, nothing worries him, but you can’t look inside his head. He’s very uncomplicated, unflustered and his work was good. He was travelling well turning in but then it was like flicking a switch.”
It seems you can just flick a switch with State Man. When you turn him on, he is extremely hard to beat.
If you watch that “schooling session” from last weekend again, you’ll see it only takes him 17 seconds to canter over the first four baby fences. He jumped eight in total, you can’t call that schooling, if he’s finished in less than a minute and does it all by himself with no pressure at all.
This is what Henrietta thinks about him. He’s far from a fluent or natural jumper. Never has been:
Henrietta Knight, Gold Cup-winning trainer
I think it’s basically a lack of concentration and he needs to have a bit more respect for what he’s doing. It’s challenging because it’s his style of jumping. He jumps into his hurdles with his toes out, doesn’t bend his knees as much as a lot of them, and there’s always going to be the chance of falling.
He did the same at the final fence in his point-to-point. I don’t think he’s the sort of horse if you jump him loose he’ll necessarily improve any more. It needs to be in the heat of a race and he just needs to be a bit more accurate. I remember when he won the Champion Hurdle I was down at the last and he only just skimmed it there. A couple of centimetres lower and he probably would have fallen that day.
That’s such a stupid comment about him taking a fatal fall. A lot of people over here share the same opinion. Maybe Timeform doesn’t, but who cares?
8/1 State Man to win next year’s Champion Hurdle. That’s not a price that will last forever.
“Agree ERL. But I said he was beaten at the time he fell at Aintree and got criticised for saying it (not by you).”
I know, I even thought he was under pressure at that stage. Got the same criticism on this forum.
