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There has to be some reason why ATR/RUK insist on showing any of this Dubai stuff, even when it interferes with the UK coverage. Probably something to do with the money that has been channeled into British racing from that part of the world over the last 20 years or so.
If there’s no UK/Irish racing, no problem, but personally I’d rather watch a repeat of Starsky and Hutch (preferably series 1 or 2).
Same goes for any other artificial "betting opportunity", Lincoln trial? Winter Derby? Yawn

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When does a 2m 5f, 6 runner novices’ hurdle from 11th March become a 3 runner 3m 2f Handicap Chase on 14th January?
Only on the ATR Racing Review!!

Beware Chalk Pit and Quartz Du Montceau apparently both ran twice the same day.
The 4.40 from Plumpton also had a head-on from the 5.20 at Taunton!
While I’m at it, who made the decision to use tiny results graphics in the corner of the screen instead of a full screen graphic during the live broadcasts?
No complaints when there are three or more meetings as we sometimes didn’t get any results on screen, but when there are only one or two meetings there is plenty of time and absolutely no excuse for not using a full screen graphic.
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Definitely all permanent at Towcester.
An example is the open ditch (third last) at the bottom of the hill.
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I think most courses here in the South of Britain have permanent fences including:
Ascot
Chepstow
Exeter
Fontwell??Huntingdon
Kempton
Lingfield
Newbury
Plumpton
SandownI’m pretty sure one of Ascot’s fences in the straight is now portable, the last I think.
Huntingdon’s second last fence is now portable.
They can be moved between meetings, if necessary, for track maintenance purposes.
It should be stressed though, that their construction is different to the "wheelie fences" used by Southwell and Worcester.
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Watched the review today and saw that they’ve actually got the win, place and show prices up on the graphics now. And they’ve changed them a bit too.
Pity they continue to refuse to change the whole morning sequence back to the way it was.

These graphics are a lot better, much clearer. At last some improvement from ATR.
Totally agree that the Review needs returning to it’s previous format. Watch out, on Saturday 16th ATR have six meetings, so I would expect two meetings won’t get shown at all in the review on Sunday morning (no doubt the two flat aw meetings will be shown though!)
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The period between Christmas and Cheltenam is more pathetic every season.
Yes it is, the more AW fixtures we get, the more pathetic it gets. One of these fixtures a day is more than enough.
The BHA should get the Flat season sorted out, pathetic is also an appropriate description of it’s start and finish. The turf flat season should start after Aintree and finish at least a week earlier.
Instead we have it "starting" with Doncaster on 22nd/23rd March, then nothing until Musselburgh 30th/31st and BH Monday and then another break until Leicester 5th April.
Similarly, we have the "finale" at Doncaster on 9th November. The preceding week we only have Redcar and Nottingham on the 5th and 6th.
Flat and NH seasons are equally enjoyable, but the edges have been blurred. Overloading Saturdays with every "big" race possible, leaving very few midweek highlights doesn’t help.
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They are what they say on the tin – NH Flat races for jumpers.
Specifically created to give NH horses a chance to race on AW tracks during long periods of bad weather, as opposed to the usual NH flat races which are indeed restricted to horses who have not run under rules.
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That’s excellent feedback. Thanks very much Espmadrid !
What with this and the rest of the feedback, I see I’m going to have to come up with something a bit more difficult next time !

I have uploaded the 1985 Welsh Grand National to Youtube for you. The picture quality is NOT great, the weather conditions didn’t help, but hope you enjoy it! Just click the link http://youtu.be/uBcSKIQkMc8
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The day was most memorable however for a race that a few may remember between Ramstar and Castle Diamond which was the best Maguire Dunwoody battle I ever saw. Not more than half a length between them for last half mile and an epic finish.
It also was one of the earliest examples of race being marred by the whip rules both getting bans despite in my opinion getting rides that showed off the attributes of their respective jockeys so briliantly.
Indeed a thrilling race, a 16 runner Novices’ Chase, a rare event these days!
Click the link to watch the full race with Graham Goode in the C4 commentary box…http://youtu.be/HDRmprmJzs0
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With the news that Cheltenham may be hosting a rescheduled Victor Chadler Chase next week, let’s take a trip down memory lane:
Following some inclement weather in the winter of 1994, the powers that be made what was at the time a quite revolutionary decision to restage Ascot’s abandoned Victor Chandler Chase at Warwick.
There was much criticism of the move, the thinking being that the local track was too ‘minor’ to host such a prestigious race and the arbitary restaging of races could only lead to
very bad things
. Fortunately, Channel Four weren’t so Luddite and sent their full team down to give it the works.
It was a desperate, soaking day with really heavy ground but Warwick and C4 were rewarded with a big crowd and a cracking atmosphere.
The Victor Chandler itself featured just four runners but it was nevertheless a real quality quartet: Waterloo Boy, Billy Bathgate, Egypt Mill Prince and Viking Flagship. The betting was really tight, all four going off between 5-2 and 3-1. The latter pairing fought out the finish with Richard Dunwoody getting David Nicholson’s brutish
Viking Flagship
up to win by 2l.
To see the race in full……http://youtu.be/jn_WpO-tJ2c
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Do these tracks not have plows?
No, but they do have ploughs.

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I know the all-weather pedants will have a go at me, but have to laugh at today’s two all weather meetings at Lingfield and Wolves being abandoned… because of the weather

I wonder what ATR will show today instead, I know it won’t be a review of all the meetings they’ve never shown
No not quite, but (after the SA racing) a review of some of the meetings this week, including Ffos Las, which they managed to screw up on Wednesday morning, so redeemed themselves slightly. Still didn’t manage to show complete races though.
Luckily the AW racing was abandoned late, otherwise they would probably have scraped together a mind numbingly boring chat fest instead.
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I have it on good authority that the racing replay clips are done by media trained technical people with no horse racing knowledge. Their remit is to squeeze as much of each race to fit the allotted time. Therefore they are not thinking lets show race A in full as its an exciting novice chase with festival clues and only show the closing stages of a 2m AW claimer at Lingfield. Very worrying indeed.
Easily believable that they have no racing knowledge. "Trained" or "technical" is very debatable. I could do a far better job with my VCR (and I do!).
There is no common sense applied some days, as Wednesday morning demonstrated. The fact that nobody checks or cares what is going to be broadcast is shocking. Just because it’s "free" (as long as you have paid for your equipment and basic tv package) doesn’t make it acceptable.
ATR management have to take the blame for ruining the review programme. Do we really need three news bulletins in the morning? Is there anything that is so earth shattering that we desperately need to know it three times? Half the programme is usually looking back at yesterday’s racing anyway.
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Back on subject (More or less) – Racing Review service continues to get worse and worse…
WEDS:- 9.15 til 10 – Southwell (AW) followed by features
10.15 til 11 – Folkestone (NH Finishes only) / Fakenham (NH Finishes only).TODAY:- 9.15 til 10 – Lingfield (AW) – shown twice
10.15 til 11 – Hexham (NH Finishes only) / Fairyhouse (NH Finishes only).Rubbish today as well. Second part not started until 10.23 – Lingfield NH races (last two-thirds) shown twice with commentaries cut-off after the finish, but only the finishes at Ffos Las and without a betting or sp graphic.
Of course the all weather rubbish was shown in full!
Tuning in on returning from work I’ve noticed they do sometimes show full replays early on in the Stateside coverage. This is all well and good, but it isn’t advertised so unless you are going to watch ATR continuously (which I guess they want you to do) you will miss it. This won’t last long either with the evenings gradually getting lighter and the UK racing finishing later.
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Rishi’s interview with Emma Lavelle’s niece was abysmal. Poor girl didn’t know what to say, Thommo could have done a far better job in the circumstances. Why Alastair Down and Thommo were sacrificed in place of Rishi I can’t fathom, he may be a nice guy but in front of the camera he is terrible and completely out of his depth.
I think we all know why, we just don’t dare say it.

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A very good trainer with, on the whole, moderate horses.
Regularly popped in the winners with horses such as Vulrory’s Clown, Indian, Invasion and Strath Royal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuF0LmqyhXc (Probably his biggest win as a trainer).
Strath Royal was a particular favourite in 2m Handicap Hurdles around Towcester. Martin Brennan used to fire him over the third last at the bottom of the hill and sprint away up the hill under 12 stone.
I remember the Brennan’s doing the double double at Towcester in 1994 with consecutive wins by Invasion and Strath Royal on April 2nd and then again with the same horses on May 27th.
Will be sadly missed.
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Quite annoying given the fact ATR usually don’t show full race replays in their review anymore.
However, we have come a long way since the days when racecourses seemed to determine their own race times.
A classic example was Fri 9th Sept 1988
Three meetings in the UK – Doncaster (Ch4), Goodwood (BBC) and Newton Abbot.
Race times:
2.35 Doncaster
2.40 Goodwood
2.45 Newton Abbot3.05 Doncaster
3.10 Goodwood
3.15 Newton Abbot3.40 Doncaster (Champagne Stakes – Group 2)
3.40 Goodwood (Select Stakes – Group 3)
3.45 Newton Abbot4.10 Doncaster
4.10 Goodwood
4.15 Newton Abbot4.40 Doncaster
4.45 Goodwood
4.45 Newton AbbotThe two televised group races were run simultaneously. Now that really was bonkers.
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