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- February 25, 2025 at 16:19 in reply to: Tenerife for the Cheltenham festival. Anyone done it? #1721376
I had the same operation two years ago. Kept having to “pop it” back in, so to speak. It was weird to begin with but I got used to it after it happened so often. Lie flat on the bed and manoeuvre it back up (apologies to anyway eating their tea). Anyway the operation was quick and simple. It was quite sore for a few days afterwards and a bit of an effort sitting down and standing up. You must not strain for a week or so afterwards – they’ll tell you not to lift anything heavier than a kettle (so your mobile will be fine to place bets!). I do a lot of walking and it was very painful leading up to the operation, but it’s 100% better now. Definitely recommended and worth the short-term discomfort. All the best.
Thanks for the replies. Of course Cheltenham is one I forgot.
As for Sandown, it was just an observation that it seems quite a walk from the finishing line to the enclosure. Agreed though Cork All Star, it is picturesque.
Yes of course. I’ve neglected an obvious one there.
I’ve had a nibble on Inis Orr. Currently a stand out 15/2 with 365 where it’s no higher than 5/1 – but generally lower – with the rest.
I agree ERL and thanks for the share. Loved that. Like everyone Jerry has his faults but he’s my favourite commentator by far, although I’m in the minority on here in saying that I know.
Yes Richard Hoiles has just confirmed only the winning prize of £21k was paid out as the other two runners were withdrawn after the declaration stage.
I’m sure I’ve asked a similar question before but does the winner collect all £40k of the pot?
Not so much worse names but how-did-that-one-get-through? Thursday’s 2.10 at Ludlow and the Sheila Lewis-trained Fan Magnet. The commentator didn’t put his foot in it with a mispronunciation, which was quite the feat to be fair.
Thanks Simon, really enjoyed that.
It brought to life something I’ve previously posted on my interest in Long Distance Travellers. As you rightly say, this wasn’t one of the longer trips Nigel Hawke would make on a weekly basis when considering his isolated location (ditto Peter Bowen, Nicky Richards, Linda Perratt etc). We should never forget the effort, preparation, time and most importantly cost that goes into getting a horse on to a racecard.
Rather grimly it also got me thinking of a trainer who makes such a journey with a single horse, only to lose that horse during the race. That journey back with an empty box must be horrendous.
Best of luck to Albert Park for future races and keep your blogs/posts coming.
At the risk of being class creep, thanks for these betting reports, Simon. Please keep them coming. I really enjoy reading them.
I was at Chepstow on Thursday and had a nice chat with James Lovell of Dragon Bet (and a previous subject of yours). As you said at the time, he’s a proper bookie and a top fella as well.
Going back to your more recent Tuesday Cheltenham report – which I see has been archived so I’ve posted my reply here too – can I just revisit the point you raised on fractions in the Ultima. I’ve heard you mention a few times on the Betting People podcasts about fractions and why punters should ask for them when on course. The 100/6 and 100/7 examples are clear but just on the 100/15, is it just a case of finding those 100/? examples that pay a fraction (pardon the pun) more than the standard odds and just asking for them? I’m assuming that bar 100/8 and 100/10 there’s always a slight edge – of varying degrees – in favour of the punter that understands the maths?
At the risk of being class creep, thanks for these betting reports, Simon. Please keep them coming. I really enjoy reading them.
I was at Chepstow on Thursday and had a nice chat with James Lovell of Dragon Bet (and a previous subject of yours). As you said at the time, he’s a proper bookie and a top fella as well.
Going back to the above Tuesday Cheltenham report, can I just revisit the point you raised on fractions in the Ultima. I’ve heard you mention a few times on the Betting People podcasts about fractions and why punters should ask for them when on course. The 100/6 and 100/7 examples are clear but just on the 100/15, is it just a case of finding those 100/? examples that pay a fraction (pardon the pun) more than the standard odds and just asking for them? I’m assuming that bar 100/8 and 100/10 there’s always a slight edge – of varying degrees – in favour of the punter that understands the maths?
Sad news. Dai was a big part of my formative racing years when I had a holiday job with Coral across their south Wales valleys shops, working as a Relief Cashier (back in the days when I’d be offered “till or payout?”).
We were regularly alerted by punters of a “wire” (also referred to as a horse “trying”) being run by Dai, or another local trainer, Derek Haydn Jones. Unsurprisingly these local rumours rarely held much credence but I loved the heightened sense of anticipation as race time neared. Great memories.
This is an interesting little feature S4C did on Dai ahead of the 2014 Welsh National. He literally trained at a base that was carved out of the side of a mountain. A world away from the yards in Lambourn and Newmarket etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fqw-meATA
My abiding memory of Dai was at Hereford a few years ago. He’d trained a winner that I’d backed at a nice price. I’d gone to the winners’ enclosure and shouted across a “well done Dai”, to which he replied “cheers butt” (with “butt” being a valleys version of “mate”, “pal” etc). It made my day.
RIP butt.
Yes of course, thanks. So an extra £436 taking total prize money for a round of jumping to £4,800.
Thanks Marlingford. So based on the second part of your reply, Taritino’s connections would have either bagged a pro-rata percentage of the unclaimed 5th/6th place prize money, or even better a straight quarter. Either way their declaration looks even more savvy.
I was about to start a new thread but was sure I’d touched upon an element of my question in an older thread…..and I had (in relation to Dr Phil Pritchard).
Saturday’s Adonis Hurdle was a relatively competitive betting affair, bar Taritino as the 125-1 outsider. I’m useless with criteria for entry to races but a quick glance at the horse’s form would suggest he was clearly unsuited to a Grade 2 contest. However – and as noted in my reply above on Dr Phil – I have no issue with such placing, as long as the horse’s welfare is not compromised in any way. In addition to a small trainer such as Joe Tickle bagging some useful prize money, with one horse having already been withdrawn his inclusion also made it a five-runner field and therefore enabled each way betting.
So to my point. Had all originally-declared horses got round safely, Taritino’s connections would have picked up £1,072 for a sixth-placed finish. At the off and it subsequently being a five-runner field, that sum had increased to £2,144 for fifth. As things played out, Peking Opera fell at the last and the tailed-off Taritino came home a distant fourth and picked up £4,264, more than most winners on a midweek card would pocket. My question is what happens to the £3,216 of unclaimed prize money earmarked for the horses finishing in fifth and sixth. Does it get divided amongst the finishers or go back in the pot, so to speak?
Thanks Simon. I always look forward to these dropping into my Podcasts feed. I particularly enjoyed the recent episode with Chris Pitt, especially his story of chronicling the career of little-known jockey John Hudson.
It got me thinking of something very similar I did back in the early 90s. For two or three seasons I closely followed the Middleham-based trainer Don Enrico Incisa. There was no rationale, it was just that he fascinated me. Much like Hudson, he was an unheralded, journeyman trainer but those type of people are right in my wheelhouse. On a writing pad I’d note all his entries, runners and information such as jockey, going, distance, course and odds. In my own little way in the valleys of south Wales I became a bit of an expert on his string.
Although his most successful horse was probably McGillyCuddy Reeks, my favourite was Filicaia. On the never-to-be-forgotten day of 18 June 1992, Filicaia was entered in a 6F contest at Ripon. I was convinced that conditions were perfect yet she was the joint outsider of the field at 12/1. I told a few friends and family and lo and behold she bolted up. She never won another race but I’ll never forget the day and the buzz of signposting a nice winner.
The Don was arguably ahead of his time in that he almost exclusively employed female jockeys. Clare Balding was on board Filicaia that day, although Kim Tinkler was the stable jockey.
Thanks for triggering some happy memories, Simon!
ps – finding a picture of the Don isn’t that easy but I have tracked one down, which is the one I use for my account icon on this forum
Thanks everyone for the replies, have really enjoyed reading them. Ironically I first found this forum in the immediate aftermath of the Gordon Elliott sitting-on-the-horse scandal in 2021, and have been a daily visitor to it ever since. So it’s thanks to Google, I guess, which is not a sentence I’ve ever written before.
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