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    Richard88
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    Indeed HDLG. I’d happily grab the popcorn if there wasn’t such a danger to the rest of the world too.

    It seems to be coming increasingly clear that this war was ill-conceived and the all-too-obvious response of Iran either not considered or, if considered, wilfully ignored by Trump.

    I fear that the idea of Trump ‘wilfully’ doing (or not doing) anything, good or bad, is becoming increasingly fanciful.

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    value31
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    As I said, this will turn out like Vietnam. The evil axis of Israel/USA will continue bombing but will lose in the end. This will finish Trump so Iran will have done the world a great favour.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    It would be even better if this war finished Netanyahu and his far right government. Sadly, it appears as though the majority of the Israeli population is too brainwashed by the propaganda to enact change.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    But how is Trump brought down , he’ll never walk away …

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    #1760416
    Richard88
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    I also hope Labour doesn’t allow those who initially supported this on this side of the pond to forget it. Tories and Reform along with their press chums were all in on this. They therefore supported the hike in energy costs and associated consequential price rises plus the other associated disruption, all of which was entirely predictable.

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    I fear that the idea of Trump ‘wilfully’ doing (or not doing) anything, good or bad, is becoming increasingly fanciful.

    Yep, a poor choice of word. ‘Wilfull’ credits him with having exercised what remains of his little grey cells by considering the pros and cons of any warnings he might have received before choosing to ignore them.

    ‘In one ear and straight out the other’ seems better: ignored, misunderstood or more likely, just uncomprehended.

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    But how is Trump brought down , he’ll never walk away …

    Die in office or incapacitated by a stroke is the best we can hope for. Mind you, ‘better the devil you know’ might apply as I’m somewhat of the belief that Trump is just the useful idiot being employed as a front by a nebulous cohort of ‘end times’ Christian fundamentalists.

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    Avatar photoPurwell
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    You may well have a point there, almost a modern day crusade!

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    #1760440
    value31
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    There will come a time when the US public screams ‘enough is enough’ as they did over Vietnam. Tragically,this won’t happen soon and thousands of innocent people in Iran will be needlessly murdered. But eventually (sooner rather than later if the UK and European leaders have the guts to speak up) the US population will understand they are mildly suffering through high inflation while Trump et al are achieving nothing. At which point the USA will have to withdraw and tell Israel they are on their own. But Israel cannot survive on their own. This is the likely outcome. The reason is that both China and Russia support Iran and would not allow that country to be obliterated.

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    Hmm..we have an Islamic Republic sympathiser on here.

    Reminder – 70m people that live in Iran do NOT support the Islamic republic. The regime has been rounding up opposition supporters constantly these past couple of weeks. Extraordinary footage and secret filming from an Iranian, shown on ITV news the other eve. Militia with AK 47s threatening Iranians and ‘arresting’ them.

    And moving on…

    One of the better mainstream TV journos, Rohit Kachroo, on ITV news today, reporting from Saudi. The Saudis and the Gulf States are very close to offensive strikes against the Islamic republic. Things are going to really ramp up in next 48 hours.
    The Islamist regime have pushed the gulf states to their limits, it seems.

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    “Militia with AK 47s threatening Iranians and ‘arresting’ them.”

    As opposed to America, where… oh wait.

    And now it looks as though Israel and America are going to fall out over how much Trump knew about yesterday’s attacks on Iranian and Qatari oil fields. Popcorn at the ready…

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    “As opposed to America, where… oh wait.”

    What does this mean? :whistle:

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Trump , the “Gripper Stebson ” of world politics , and we all know what happened to Gripper … Trump was aware of the Israel strikes however is now busy lying and covering his tracks , so Europe and the Arab states all now look at the US with mistrust and anger , next on his list … China , I’m sure if he pokes them with regards to there Iranian oil supply they’ll lie down …. as I said in the end “Gripper” got his ..

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Yep he did just say that …

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    value31
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    NO, I am NOT an Islamic Republic Sympathiser. But I face reality. Iran has not attacked any other country. I agree that Iran is harsh on its own citizens, but what they have done is very minor compared to the genocide Israel has done in Gaza. Israel has effectively wiped out Palestinians by killing them and by cutting them off from food and water.

    The USA and Israel continually start wars and murder innocent people including children in their thousands. Iran is targeting military installations whereas the USA target schools killing hundreds and innocent children.

    It would be great in my view if Israel was stopped unnecessarily attacking other countries.

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    moehat
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    And they are still bombing Palestine I believe?

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    “…what they have done is very minor compared to the genocide Israel has done in Gaza.”

    What a pathetic riposte and an absolutely disgraceful slur on the majority of Iranians who continue to oppose the despotic regime in Iran.

    c40,000 Iranians, who opposed the Islamist regime in Iran were killed in January this year, alone. I’m not even referencing the 100’s of 000s killed since 1979.
    See The Guardian article, published 27 Jan 26 (i cannot post).
    Just google this and click on Amnesty International website.

    You’re a pathetic apologist for the Islamist Republic, China and Russia.

    Obviously only joined this forum to post your anti-US, anti-West bilge, whilst lapping up the propoganda from out East.

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