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    Avatar photoDrone
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    Isn’t it debatable that the drone in Cyprus was from Iran?

    The consensus seems to be that although they’re Iranian-manufactured drones they’ve been fired from Lebanon, presumably by Hezbollah. Whether this was following orders from Iran itself or a unilateral decision is unclear.

    Tempted to change my name now that it’s been debased by being applied to military hardware. Oh for the days when it only applied to Bertie Wooster, bees, a tedious noise and a useful American thoroughbred :yes:

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    homersimpson
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    For those saying we should join this war, should we have gone to war with Russia when they attacked us on British soil back in 2018?

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    nwalton
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    Homer should we be this much involved in Ukraine Russia conflict?
    I will hold my hands up and say on that one I am not sure either way.
    Again I am way behind most of you on all this but have we ever had close ties with Ukraine? I love the country due to the fact of their great boxers over the years😀

    #1760254
    Richard88
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/badenoch-starmer-iran-war-middle-east-b2939469.html

    This clown cannot be a serious politician surely? Beyond satire.

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    nwalton
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    Bit harsh on starmer Richard 🤣🤣

    #1760273
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Badenoch ” plan ” was to go in feet first , No thanks , I wonder what she’ll offer up at PMQs this week , obv she can’t go near Iran after making a total idiot of herself , Badenoch , when your the weakest link in a corpse of a party it’s time to give up

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    #1760279
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    She’ll probably go back to the Mandelson stuff. I mean, at this moment in time we really do need for Labour to have a leadership election don’t we.

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    It has now been discovered that Iran has much more fire power than predicted by the idiots in Washington. The reality is that USA/Israel have lost this war and want a way out. The problem they have is that the last time they lost (last year) they persuaded Iran to agree to a cease fire on the basis that they would not attack again. The world now knows, including Iran, that the USA cannot be trusted to honour agreements. So Iran will keep hitting Israel and USA bases until they feel safe.

    The USA is a ‘dead country walking’ whose lack of power has been exposed. Trump and his cronies have managed to destroy the USA. China will find a way to end this war and will emerge as the world’s super power as the USA did in 1944.

    Starmer made a great decision to agree to a Chinese embassy in London. The UK will be seen as neutral and not as an enemy.

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    #1760303
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    Bit late now!

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1760315
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    And so starts the self preservation back turning on Trump , it’s a self inflicted punch to the face , Trumps always treated this as a business deal … It aint

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    It’s a dangerous thing when someone with paranoia has the power to try and alleviate it whilst everyone around him just nods in agreement instead of having the guts to tell him otherwise.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    Heard this again this afternoon, as a tribute to Country Joe Mcdonald who died a few days ago

    Written in 1965 shortly after the USA’s ground invasion of Vietnam: 61 years on… :unsure:

    #1760332
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    No doubt the industrial-military complex identified by a greater President than the current incumbent has made a nice fat profit.

    A young songwriter was onto them in 1963:

    “Come you masters of war
    You that build the big guns
    You that build the death planes
    You that build all the bombs
    You that hide behind walls
    You that hide behind desks
    I just want you to know
    I can see through your masks.

    You that never done nothin’
    But build to destroy.
    You play with my world
    Like it’s your little toy.
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly.

    Like Judas of old
    You lie and deceive.
    A world war can be won
    You want me to believe.
    But I see through your eyes
    And I see through your brain
    Like I see through the water
    That runs down my drain.

    You fasten all the triggers
    For the others to fire
    Then you sit back and watch
    When the death count gets higher.
    You hide in your mansion
    While the young people’s blood
    Flows out of their bodies
    And is buried in the mud.

    You’ve thrown the worst fear
    That can ever be hurled.
    Fear to bring children
    Into the world.
    For threatening my baby
    Unborn and unnamed
    You ain’t worth the blood
    That runs in your veins.

    How much do I know
    To talk out of turn.
    You might say that I’m young
    You might say I’m unlearned.
    But there’s one thing I know
    Though I’m younger than you
    That even Jesus would never
    Forgive what you do.

    Let me ask you one question.
    Is your money that good?
    Will it buy you forgiveness?
    Do you think that it could?
    I think you will find
    When your death takes its toll
    All the money you made
    Will never buy back your soul.

    And I hope that you die
    And your death will come soon
    I’ll follow your casket
    By the pale afternoon.
    And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
    Down to your deathbed
    And I’ll stand over your grave
    ‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead”

    Bob Dylan, Masters of War, from The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan.

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    Their agents have obviously identified a real threat, hence, their need for extreme action right now.

    Did they? Lots of doubt cast on that today.

    #1760386
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    I watched some of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s grilling of Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, the heads of the FBI and CIA, and military top brass.

    Incisive questioning as one would expect, and to say that the ensemble looked uncomfortable and were evasive is putting it mildly.

    It seems to becoming increasingly clear that this war was ill-conceived and the all-too-obvious response of Iran either not considered or, if considered, wilfully ignored by Trump.

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    Fair to say the American public isn’t happy , hikes at the pumps and dead soldiers ain’t the way to get votes come the midterms , he’s in trouble which is dangerous with an animal like Trump

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

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