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. Has given the bookies the opportunity to promote Zaynar to favourite and take some more hard earned cash of mug punters.
you will eat your words on the 16th of march 2010
No he wont – he’ll make more excuses.
‘Binny’ was the one that supposedly had all the pace and angles covered! The race should have suited him down to the ground and what happens? Can’t blame the pace of the race at all IMO – Binocular stank.
There are a good few better out there this time round and Zaynar is but one of them.
Do yourself and your pocket a favour come March and ‘Bin’ the sentiment, Fist. You’re riding your favourite horse straight to the toilet.
Binocular and Im a fan and really want him to win the CH, was incredibly disappointing, even with the pace he showed so much class.
AP and McManus were pretty harsh on Binocular today and it doesnt give you great confiennce, McManus escpially saying the horse isnt good enough.
Although there is no way Won In The dark is better than Binocular.
At this stage of the season, I have to agree with Fist.
Beating a load of stayers over two miles-three around Ascot does not entitle you to win a Champion Hurdle.
It doesn’t inspire confidence when his next target is the Relkeel Hurdle, run over two miles-five. Four of the five previous winners include Black Jack Ketchum, Mighty Man, Lough Derg and Crystal d’Ainey.
Champion Hurdle contenders?
The question Nicky Henderson has to ask himself is "Would I rather finish fourth, fifth or sixth in a Champion Hurdle, or second in a World Hurdle?"
Of course, if Zaynar can show me something en route to Cheltenham I would be more than happy to change my mind, but winning a Relkeel Hurdle won’t do it.
At this stage of the season, I have to agree with Fist.
Beating a load of stayers over two miles-three around Ascot does not entitle you to win a Champion Hurdle.
Unless your name is Hardy Eustace.
Stamina is a valuable commodity in a Champion Hurdle, Bos. Istabraq, Rooster Booster, Hardy Eustace, Brave Inca – to name just the recent ones – all stayed well beyond 2m. The race is invariably true-run, the track is stiff, and having the ability to stay 20f, is very much a positive for the race. Zaynar is very much a player, imo.
What exactly did McCoy and JP say after the race on Saturday? ? ?
I didn’t see any interviews with them.
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Nothing publically. JP horse mate.
I’m pretty sure that on ceefax JP was quoted as saying that all horses had the same conditions to run against in the race and that Binocular ‘just wasn’t good enough’.
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. Has given the bookies the opportunity to promote Zaynar to favourite and take some more hard earned cash of mug punters.
you will eat your words on the 16th of march 2010
No he wont – he’ll make more excuses.
‘Binny’ was the one that supposedly had all the pace and angles covered! The race should have suited him down to the ground and what happens? Can’t blame the pace of the race at all IMO – Binocular stank.
There are a good few better out there this time round and Zaynar is but one of them.
Do yourself and your pocket a favour come March and ‘Bin’ the sentiment, Fist. You’re riding your favourite horse straight to the toilet.
Sentiment my azz!!! 5 second slower than the Grade 5 novide hurdle and you expect me or anyone to take that race seiously.
You don’t often see a Grade 1 race where the jockey’s all threw their whips away at the start. Davey Condon gave the winner a tap and Graham Lee for some reason gave Blue Bajan a couple of dull ones but apart from that, not a whip to be seen.
What I took from that race is Binocular got a really nice pipe opener and Nicky Henderson will be very happy. Solwhit definitely would need it soft at Cheltenham to have a change. The winner probably won’t have a race set up like that for him again this season and Muirhead remains Noel Meade’s number one hope
JP never lies….he just forgot to say "on the day" he wasn’t good enough. Nicky Henderson said before the race Binocular will improve for the run and he was a bit burly.
Despite the gallop reports, he would have been as well saying, he’s nowhere near peak fitness, will win if he can but he won’t be given a hard race. I don’t need to read racing rags to know how Nicky Henderson often sends his top horses out for a spin with those instructions.
On a line through Sublimity Binocular ran roughly a hurdle under par….joke race!!!!
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Funny that, Fist, because Henderson himself says something very different.
Im sure I heard JP say that the horse wasnt good enough. Thats why he was beaten.
Before the race I think the Henderson yard and the odds on punters though a slow pace would suit. It didnt. Was it just the pace or was it something more than that?
As Ive said on the other thread I would be tempted to run him in the Bula.
Surely no one can take the form of this seriously? You can only speculate the pace like it was would have suited Binocular, when do you ever see a grade 1 run like that? Binocular clearly actually stays well, has a high cruise and doesn’t actually appear to find alot of the bridle.
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Im sure I heard JP say that the horse wasnt good enough. Thats why he was beaten.
Before the race I think the Henderson yard and the odds on punters though a slow pace would suit. It didnt. Was it just the pace or was it something more than that?
As Ive said on the other thread I would be tempted to run him in the Bula.
JP did say he wasn’t good enough but didn’t say he wasn’t good enough to win the Champion Hurdle. The man was clearly talking about on the day and don’t be thinking he won’t be having a right few quid on him in March.
This race was run 5 seconds slower than the grade 5 Novice Hurdle.
let’s take it that when Nicky Henderson said he’d come on for the race he was a bit short. You would think the the slow pace would take less out of him and there would be less chance of him blowing up I would have to agree with that in many cases.
However Binocular isn’t Hurricane Fly. He doesn’t win his races with a sudden burst of acceleration of a slow pace. Binocular has a very high cruising speed and when others are flat to the boards he’s still in 3rd gear. From there he produces another gear and cruises past. That’s Binocular and no way did that pace suit him and that’s the only reason he ran so badly IMO.
Not good enough? Hope the bookies agree next time he runs I could do with a new Merc for Xmas
Being firmly in the Celestial will win the 2010 champion hurdle camp!Only a fool would write off Binoculars chances!Twice he cruised past us last year,it takes a good one to do that to Celestial Halo! Cheltenham of course is a different ball game! Being an aftertiming B*****d,i actually ended up backing Go Native at 46 on the machine,purely on the way he beat Medermit and Somersby at Cheltenham,but i am under no illusions that he will win the Champion hurdle,he could surprise and run a place though,it all depends which go Native turns up!Solwhit has No chance,not a prayer!Unless its Heavy of course!
The victory of Go Native might strengthen the claims of Medermit and Somersby in The Arkle.
Go Native is a Supreme Novice winner. It may have been a steady pace, but its a bit perverse to suggest a Supreme (a big field race ran at a breakneck pace) winner was suited so much more than the rest of the field by the crawl.
He absolutely hacked up and, ignoring hype and reputations, is the obvious one to take from the race. For me people are over-analysing to suit their own theories / hyperbole about other horses who were well beaten.
The victory of Go Native might strengthen the claims of Medermit and Somersby in The Arkle.
Damn right it will NHfan,but at the prices he was worth an interest!I firmly believe the real Binocular would have hosed in around Newcastle!
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