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Visindar

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    stevedvg
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    I thought in his previous race that he wasn’t a "push-button" horse.

    Instead, he took a while to get into top speed and I thought, on a track like Epsom, this could be a problem for him.

    Having said that, leading up to the Derby, I thought he was the classiest horse in the race and that his odds more than compensated for this doubt (and any doubt about gf ground). So, I backed him.

    I suppose people who backed Visindar will be disappointed slightly by his performance but he’s actually ran a very creditable race.

    He was only about 2.5l behind. That’s not a big deal.

    I hope they keep over 12 for his next race as I still think he’ll stay on a more suitable track.

    Steve  

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    FlatSeasonLover
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    The RP seems to agree with my initial thoughts:

    "Visindar had real presence in the preliminaries and was heavily backed to live up to a superstar billing that in truth owed more to hype and home reputation than to racecourse achievement. He had his stamina to prove and he was also racing on the fastest ground he has encountered, but inexperience,both from horse and rider, also contributed to his defeat. He was held up towards the rear and set a lot to do, and although the winner was a place behind him when he turned for home in tenth, he doesn’t have Sir Percy’s speed. It looked for a moment or two inside the final two furlongs as if he might get there, but there was no spark to his effort and he was continually edging left towards the inside. He is probably better than this, but how good remains to be seen."

    It makes you wonder where he would have finshed if positioned in 3rd or 4th, much nearer the front.<br>

    #72853
    Longchamp Lad
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    View from here seems to be a mix of not handling Tattenham Corner well and this was the first time he’d met a large field.

    And I suspect that the ground might have been too quick. Tracks here are rarely faster than Good, indeed in 2005 there was only one example of GF. Last Thursday they were watering Longchamp at 07:30 the day after racing, a day on which a fair drop of rain had fallen and a day for which further rain had been forecast.

    I’d be tempted to keep on the right side of him when he next goes on easier ground. Inevitably he will have learnt from the Epsom experience.

    #72854
    Wallace
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    Longchamp Lad , I’m sure you are correct and we will see a different horse on slow ground.  Also a proper galloping track without a camber will help.  You can excuse any horse failing to act at such a hideous track as Epsom.

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    Anonymous
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    Quote: from Longchamp Lad on 6:37 pm on June 4, 2006[br]View from here seems to be a mix of not handling Tattenham Corner well and this was the first time he’d met a large field.

    And I suspect that the ground might have been too quick.  <br>

    LL<br> None of the above stopped him moving into contention, and indeed, looking the possible winner, just over 2 out.<br> I agree with Venusian, he simply ran out of gas.

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    guskennedy
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    His jockey didn’t exactly shine, did he? He kept hitting Visindar with the whip in his right hand even when he was clearly hanging left. He was back to his "grandstanding" at Chantilly yesterday, of course.

    (Edited by guskennedy at 1:14 pm on June 5, 2006)

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    DeadlySins
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    My opinion is I don’t think he quite handled the camber up the straight and I reckon he will stay 12f in a truly run race, he was in a good enough position turning in though when you look at where Alexandrova was the day before. I found more questions than answers on Saturday, you could question the form of the race but there is a long time left this season. Hala Bek is the one to take out of the race and must have a live chance in the St. Leger. Horatio Nelson R.I.P.

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    IRSHEYEZ
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    Jackane you said that Visindar ran far better than you expected but yet on the Fallon thread you said he wud finish 4th where he finished 5th in the race. That would tell me he ran worse than you thought he would.

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