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  • #193616
    clivex
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    It was only because of the American right wing’s obsessive paranoia with the spread of Communism that a two term maximum was set after FDRs death, and that laissez-faire government became the order of the

    Two term presidencies in america were brought in to stop….wait for it……….communism

    Thats right Clivex, your old tactic of waiting for a few posts to move away from the subject, then get your last word in with some typically puerile and inaccurate references to the points I had made

    #193618
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    It is unlikely the halcyon days of the early 70s will ever again be seen, bit if this recession continues apace and the government are forced to nationalise anything that moves then you never know.

    halcyon days" for the economy in the early seventies is a somewhat "weird" view isnt it?. Barking maybe? Come on now. Shall we look at some stats

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    Thats right Clivex, your old tactic of waiting for a few posts to move away from the subject, then get your last word in with some typically puerile and inaccurate references to the points I had made

    #193625
    clivex
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    Quote:

    It was only because of the American right wing’s obsessive paranoia with the spread of Communism that a two term maximum was set after FDRs death, and that laissez-faire government became the order of the day

    do what? wheres the source for that one?

    Why don’t you try and find one? You who’s so good with his cut and pasting from wikipedia or the Daily Mail website.

    You have failed to provide any meaningful and detailed information in support of your views. You responses are based around one liners, usually followed by a comment deliberately designed to be provocative, rather then relying upon the ability to display anything other than a passing understanding of the subject matter in hand.

    #193626
    clivex
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    #193629
    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    I’m glad it’s all a bit beneath you.

    It’s not beneath me (otherwise I’d never have responded in the first place, surely), just not especially rewarding anymore.

    HTH,

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #194527
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    fierfox, it’s only a forum – not the United Nations.

    Clivex has a style, much as you do, that is well established here. I have been on the receiving end of many a barbed comment from the man in question, but I don’t take it too seriously, so why should you?

    It’s not really on to start taking a poster to task about their ‘style’, imo. If you are upset about it (and you do seem to be in a minority of one on the subject), then I’d suggest taking it to a PM with Cormack, to see whether he wants to intervene or not.

    #194528
    clivex
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    Some good lines there

    #194560
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    Barely bothered reading most of that, but talk about pot kettle. How many posts could we drag up from this poster on a whole variety of subjects. Not elast the one about Paul yesterday which beggered belief

    In fact there isnt a single personal insult in the whole list.

    Reading the points again, i think they were very well made. wouldnt change any of them although might have been slightly more gentle about the Native american’s belief that Custer is about to come over the hill and burn the wigwams

    Four of the posts are factual statements. If anyone wants to counter them (ie proof that the BNP does use suicide bombers) then go ahead. To claim that only the "far right" would point out that the BNP doesnt wage war in this way, is just alittle bit …..strange

    If anyone finds factual statements that they cannot counter "insulting" then they should question their own mentality…or health

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    #194561
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    Like I say, firefox, if you have an issue (and you clearly have) you should take it to Cormack or one of the Moderation team (Happy Jack or Dave Jay) via PM.

    #194578
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    Firefox .. it’s only a forum. If you and clive met in real life, at a swingers club or something, you would probably get on really well and end up sending one another Christmas cards.

    Do you want Clive banned, or do you just want him to agree with everything you say?

    #194579
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    I’ve never seen Brokeback Mountain but I bet this is how it started…

    #194606
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    Firefox, I was absolutely furious at certain responses on that particular thread, but it was a very, very emotive thread at times (which I contributed to, perhaps even facilitated), so I withdrew. I wasn’t exactly blameless, so let me fight my own battles – but thanks for the intention.

    I’ve also offended plenty of Tories on here, so Clive has no reason to pull his punches with my posts.

    Forums are supposed to be a lark. In my experience, forums full of blokes are the very worst for forgetting that, as in here on occasion. Invisible cock swinging contests and all that.

    #194612
    clivex
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    If you and clive met in real life, at a swingers club

    FFS no no no

    Not unless his missus was something special and then i would out of spite

    #194613
    clivex
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    Firefox, I was absolutely furious at certain responses on that particular thread

    I can understand how livid you were with the desperate quality of your fellow lefties responses. Have my full sympathy there

    #194644
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    Firefox,

    http://www.little-bookroom.com/si/1881.html

    10^x posts since returning from your holidays suggests it’s time to hit the addictive little box’s hibernate button, prize open the front door and take a brisk walk in the cure-all that is cold fresh air

    All good entertainment though, ta :lol:

    #194835
    dave jay
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    if it provides you with a release from the daily monotony of extra-marital relations with your blood relatives.

    .. and your complaining about people not being respectful ??

    #194846
    Ugly Mare
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    Oh, you won’t get me, I’m part of the Union,
    You won’t get me, I’m part of the Union,
    You won’t get me, I’m part of the Union,
    ‘Til the day I die,
    ‘Til the day I die.

    …My dear Alchemist,

    As a non-payer I hope you’re not one of these people who one hears each April, usually, shouting the loudest – ”what percentage did we get?!!”….”is it back dated?!!”…”when we gettin’ it?!!!”

    I don’t think it’s the non-payers that have had much impact on the loss of Union power today as simply the sheer cost of living – few can afford to take the time off necessary to make a stand. Hard enough in the old days, but I think now, any more than 2 days here, another day there, and that’s about enough for most, hence the bargaining power is severely curtailed – they simply cannot call an all out strike any more.

    The backing for industrial action doesn’t exist like it used to. Everyone is pushed financially to the limit, our own fault you might say, or encouraged to do so – they have us all by the throats. You can’t sell your house and move on, jobs are scarce and people are mortgaged up to the hilt.

    What happens now, when strike action is called for, you see people running around desperately trying to avoid the fateful day when they might lose a full weeks wages, by going sick or taking holidays, thereby avoiding any loss.

    As former and present Union members, [CWU], my husband and I had occasion recently to contact our Pensions helpline [that should be Non-helpline], with a query that was especially important to us, if not so in the greater scheme of things, this was some weeks ago and we are still awaiting a response.

    On contacting a Union representative who is close to the hierarchy and negotiates pension arrangements on the Pension Board – so someone who you would expect to know the score – happily called us back straight away and gave us all the information we were very much in need of, concise and to the point and with a cheerful smile and joke with it, none of this sour management attitude when you dare mention something that might be of advantage to oneself.

    For the sake of a couple of quid a week I think it’s worth paying, you never know when you might need them.

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