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You still haven’t answered my question?
I guess the answer to that question is that in the tinpot race, he beat MBE comfortably and he is a 10/1 shot for this. So whether that warrants the attention or not is a matter of opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if the winner came from that tinpot race…..
Charli Parcs seems to be turning into the “Marmite” horse of the festival. For
what it’s worth, I’m siding with the “love him” camp. As I commented on the
Supreme thread, after his Adonis run, I thought that he didn’t settle and
gave Barry Geraghty a bit of a time cajoling him along, but when he eventually
saw daylight I think that he was picking up really well just before he came
down. I don’t think it was a tired fall, and as I said then, IMO he would
have run on well and based on his previous run against the winner I see no
reason why he wouldn’t have won.He didn’t settle brilliantly on his first start either but he did jump and travel like a different horse. He did pick up but the winner was still travelling much better and didn’t stop. There was every reason to believe he wouldn’t have won. He has had a crashing fall and regressed from the previous run and people still want to talk him up? I can see why people might have been interested after the previous run (I was one of them) but not after the additional negatives surrounding the latest run. Even before that it was guesswork as to whether Cheltenham would suit. NRNB or not he is a now a double figure price for good reason. I think plenty of people would have side-stepped the Festival but Henderson has entered prove a point mode.
I get your point Stilvi, and admittedly it’s not hard to make a counter arguement. I think the whole
case lies in what was about to happen when he came down. I thought he was just picking up and I expected
him to take off, he has done before, but others think it was a tired fall and he had regressed, and
that’s fair enough. I’ve watched it a few times and with the difficult ride Geraghty had on him, I think
he did well to be in the position he was just before he came down. I suppose it’s all about gut feeling
as to what he was about to do, and mine was that he looked like he finally settled and looked like he was
about to make his move. If you look at the previous Kempton race on 27 Dec, he didn’t particularly
settle early on, and it wasn’t until the latter part of the race that Noel Fehily took him wide that he
improved easily and then with 3 to go he took off. MBE is obviously pretty decent, so there isn’t much
doubting it was an impressive win. In the Adonis Geraghty rode him differently, he kept him towards the
inside with plenty company around him. I think he wasn’t that comfortable with that, and as I said
earlier it was only when he saw daylight that he looked settled and looked (IMO) like he was going
to make a move. I doubt he’s lost his ability after 1 run, so with a run more suited to him I can see
him showing what he is capable of. Geraghty is out for the Festival, I’d be quite happy if Fehily
took the reins at Cheltenham. If the first Kempton race is the true CP, then he is hugely overpriced,
but I accept that the 2nd run leaves some doubt. You pays your money you takes your choice
There is no doubt he had picked but there is a question mark as to whether he would have continued to pick up all the way to the line against a rival who had barely come off the bridle. Clearly even the best horses can only sustain a run for a limited period. Having come under pressure before the home turn this would have a big ask. He might just as easily have flattened out.
That’s fair comment stilvi, nobody knows for sure and I guess that’s why he’s the
price he is. It’ll all come out in the wash, as they say. I hope, if only for the
sake of my pocket, that I’ve read it right.With the forecast looking dryish in the run up to the festival and during festival week. There is a small possibility that Defi Du Suel could turn up in the supreme on Tuesday. Their was an interview/podcast with Hobbs saying that his horse wants a bit of dig to be seen to best effect. Bapaume is the play here. Its been Willies best juvenile and wont mind what the weather does but the theory is ,that it will appreciate better ground.
Chaps, were is the best place to watch back English races? I use the ATR app for Irish races.
http://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/video/
For the most part.
Chaps, were is the best place to watch back English races? I use the ATR app for Irish races.
Laid off my only bet on Mega Fortune for a small loss. I dont think the ground will be suitable at all for him.
Backed Land of hope and glory to win instead @ 18’s NRNB. A very similar campaign as last years winner and sure to appreciate the faster ground.
Slight concerns possibly with the favourite who has only ran on soft ground. Last time he ran connections said he would not run on good ground and the other ( Charli Parcs ) would and vice a versa.
Segals longshot nap is landofhopeandglory and I’m totally with him here. Think the favs jumping will fall apart and is far too short to be a backable proposition, this is the kind of race that screams “upset” and think Jo O’brien’s horse can deliver the goods
Oh just noticed you’re on him as well botchy good luck mate
Thanks, how ironic it would be if 2 x O’Brien horses were my only winners eh ?
I know a few of us are aware of Charli Parcs potential and that he would of won the Adonis if he stayed up.
The market is with us on this as he is getting shorter and shorter by the hour on the exchanges. Get on now while you still have an each way priceBoring stuff from me here. I took 2/1 Defi a couple of weeks ago. I think the jumping worries are just nonsense – apart from those blips at Chepstow he has been good. The scary thing for the rest is that he’s by good ground sire Voix Du Nord, so we probably haven’t even seen the best of him yet.
I just took Jazschlong’s advice for an each-way chisel on Charli Parcs too. I’ve watched the Adonis finish about 100 times and am starting to think he would have won. It was his first run after a couple of months off (arrived in England fit from France, won, then presumably took it easy) and he just looked a bit rusty.
I’m hardly setting the world alight by backing the fav and hoping to chop with the second fav, but I think they’re both potential stars running against a lot of deadwood. I think the improvement in Master Blueyes is legit but he needs to go on again. The Irish crew aren’t much cop.
I know a few of us are aware of Charli Parcs potential and that he would of won the Adonis if he stayed up.
The market is with us on this as he is getting shorter and shorter by the hour on the exchanges. Get on now while you still have an each way priceI hope you all got on in time as Charli is as low as 3/1 in places.
I 100% believe Henderson when he says CP was coming back on the bridle in the Adonis. Who are we to question the master?
This horse is going to be special and the flood of money coming for him certainly puts my doubts of injury etc at rest.
Can see a big performance coming…He runs in the Triumph and wins. 10/1 NRNB at Hills. Lap it up. If he hadn’t fallen LTO he’d have won and been cut to 3s within days.
It’s a good thing Elliott and Nicholls are not on this forum. Journalists, sorry Dave Yates, have been ripped to pieces for less.
I know it’s a laughable thing to say, I even delayed before clicking submit but honestly I think this horse is just streets ahead of anything else. I think he’s a 6/4 shot posing as a 10/1 shot. Just need him to run!
Well we’re nearly there. 3/1 now so only 1 1/2 points to go.
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