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    Avatar photoZarkava
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    That race in Ireland was beautiful. It’s told us so much about this race. Dinaria Des Obeaux isn’t a Triumph horse, but i have faith she’s still a very good horse.

    This Mega Fortune-Bapaume form is too close together to be good enough.

    Cliffs of Dover out possibly? That’s a shame

    I think we can start to unravel the winner. Obv if Charli Parcs runs, he wins.

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    Although they said on ATR that bapaume is better on soft i thought the opposite, i thought hed be Better suited to more decent ground :scratch:

    Dinaria did well to get 3rd there

    Meri devie isnt up to much

    Three obrien horses were really poor over the hurdles

    Defi/charlie will win this

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    Bapume wants better ground,
    meri devie, houses of parliament, bhutan for the Fred winter

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    I’ve had Mega Fortune each way at 20s and he was my selection for the TRF v Pricewise comp.

    However, he doesn’t beat Defi Du Seuil on any form i’m aware of and the favourite appears to be the outstanding choice now. Charli Parcs has potential but surely they’ll run him in the Supreme ( unless it’s heavy going on the Tuesday )

    DDS in the accas, Mega Fortune each way and that’s me done with this race now. Something might take my fancy on the day should we have a dry Festival week.

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    Cliffs of Dover is not entered!

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    I think Baupame on sunday’s showing is a big player for the triumph

    like the way he fought back when headed and as the owner said, the track at cheltenham will suit him

    the fav is ob a good horse and a worthy fav. He just doesn’t blow me away though. I think Charli Parcs is the sexy horse here

    are people really that confident he will go to the supreme? I think with such a lack of experience it’s much more likely he’ll run in the triumph as it’s a much more winnable race

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    Cliffs Of Dover out for the season, apparently.

    #1288903
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    With Charlie Parcs fall at the last in the Adonis, bookmakers seem to be under-estimating the form of Master Blueyes.

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    With Charlie Parcs fall at the last in the Adonis, bookmakers seem to be under-estimating the form of Master Blueyes.

    Well worth a bet. Seems to have blossomed lately

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    With Charlie Parcs fall at the last in the Adonis, bookmakers seem to be under-estimating the form of Master Blueyes.

    Well worth a bet. Seems to have blossomed lately

    Yes, sadly for anyone who had taken the original price for the Fred Winter. His jumping was significantly better. Still a big difference between sharp, right-handed tracks and Cheltenham so I wouldn’t be rushing to take the current prices.

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    Agree form could be underestimated and if MBE did not have to face a Champion like Defi Du Seuil he would stand a very good chance in the Triumph.

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    Just watched Adonis again. MB travelled throughout like a horse at the top of his game – really enjoying it (in stark contrast to the fav). He’s tractable, can be very fast across his hurdles (needs to be more consistent but probably will be with experience) and that turn of foot is a killer weapon. Williams claimed, if memory serves, that Evening Hush was the fastest horse he’d had (not, perhaps, the most earth-shattering pronouncement) and MB shot clear of her and won easily.

    Stilvi’s caution re right-handed tracks is worth bearing in mind, but it’s hard to overstate the value of a youngster going into Cheltenham having proved he is absolutely thriving. He’d be good enough on yesterday’s run to have a great chance and given that further improvement can reasonably be expected, he still looks too big at 10/1, especially as SKY offer NRNB and matches the best price.

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    Is Divin Bere being aimed here? One run in England resulted in a hard fought win over Master Blueyes who was in receipt of 4 pounds. Freely available at 25/1 but only best price 16/1 NRNB.

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    With Charlie Parcs fall at the last in the Adonis, bookmakers seem to be under-estimating the form of Master Blueyes.

    Well worth a bet. Seems to have blossomed lately

    16/1 was “available” immediately afterwards, 10/1 the best now is still reasonable. Even if ignoring Charlie Parcs completely the form stacks up. Stilvi’s point about right-handed is a good one, form over hurdles is that way around; but some of MB’s best flat form was in the best 3 year old handicaps left-handed York could provide. Second in Melrose. Unless he’s got a different hurdles preference should be ok. Progressive Flat form came on a sound surface in big fields over staying trips… So (if jumping well) a strong pace at Cheltenham could easily bring more improvement from this genuine type. There’s not many trainers with a better record than King in Triumph Hurdles. Defi De Seuil deffoe has the best form and deserves to be favourite, but he’s less than a third the price.

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    Fred Winter would have to come under serious consideration for Divin Bere considering he’s only rated 137. Providing of course the BHA do not bump him up a few pounds later this week due to his form with the King horse.

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    They’d be nuts not to stick him up a few pounds.

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    Is Divin Bere being aimed here? One run in England resulted in a hard fought win over Master Blueyes who was in receipt of 4 pounds. Freely available at 25/1 but only best price 16/1 NRNB.

    Big fan of this horse.

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