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I can only guess that it had also been put up by Rix or another tipping line at the same time as you were trying to back it. Unlucky!
<br>It’s only good business practice to try and sell at lower if a buyer wants in
If you wanted a decent lump on at say 8-1, i would offer you a lower rate hoping you would take it, it is then up to you to try and negotiate favorable terms or go elsewhere
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"I thought this horse was the best horse by ten lengths in that race (woodcote)"
If he was somewhere between 30-35 lb better than the likes of Bespoke Boy Tom, why only one point at 11/2 instead of a mortgage job.
A laughable statement that he makes all too often.
He is only a nuisance DJ. Nothing worse when you fancy a horse, only to open the RP and find segal has tipped it up, while he is already on at a tasty price, you have make do with the scraps.:angry:
The only thing laughable is that big bookies employ odds compilers that put up ricks of the magnitude of 11/2 about a monster like Declaration of War.
Another golden summer of pricewise beckons methinks.
I will admit that I am not Tom Segals greatest fan. However, his saturday morning tipping does offer a unique opportunity for exchange punters. The reason being you can almost guarantee whatever he tips up will go off quite a bit shorter than it is first thing saturday.
Therefore if your really on the ball u back it first thing, wait for the price to contract and lay off the stake and a bit extra. guaranteed profit!!
Wow, arbing pricewise selections. What a good idea. You should have kept that to yourself benbdb, everyone will be doing it now!
Welcome to the forum btw.
Quote: from thedarkknight on 1:40 pm on June 19, 2007[br]Yes – looks a huge rick now – 6.8 on the machine….<br>
You come from the screen staring school of odds compiling then TDK?
I’m not surprised it rebounded out given the amount of money that those with the skillz to follow Tiger Tom were dumping onto the market with their arbing activities.
Every day’s a winning day with peerless pricewise…even when they run like drains.
Nothing wrong with getting the numbers on your side a little with a few arbs here and there.<br>
A while back, we had a similar debate – see "Frankie’s Derby" thread – over Segal’s comments about Authorized and the O’Brien Derby contingent and their relative merits. As I said there, he seems to me to be indulging in a bit of exaggeration to make the point that he believes Declaration Of War was value at Epsom for considerably more than his winning margin. We all do it: "he’ll trot up", "should have won by half the track", "it’ll be a walk in the park", "value for considerably more". There’s no harm in it, even from a racing journalist. Sometimes he’s right, as with Authorized, and sometimes he’s wrong, like yesterday.
Quote: from cormack15 on 10:23 pm on June 19, 2007[br]Nothing wrong with getting the numbers on your side a little with a few arbs here and there.
Indeed Cormack. Even if those honestly going about their business of backing their fancies have to run the gauntlet of being called ‘plankton’ when they chance upon a value bet at a bookies.
Gwenseb couldn’t win if it started now. Minority Report will win the Hunt Cup by half the rack.
i agree with you on gwenseb, there is NOTHING in her form to suggest she has a chance today, i swear sometimes he just picks one of the big price horses with a pin then invents a reason why its value. of the bigger priced ones Bahia Breeze is closer to the principles on form imo but do i think it will win? no! so its not value. when will he learn, an 11/8 shot that should be a 4/6 shot is value, a 16/1 shot that wouldnt win if it had a head start is not.
i apologise for the rant but its just one of those things that gets me going.
There is an obvious dislike of ‘The Pricewise’ column by alot of forumites on here. I don’t follow it myself, like most I enjoy it tenfold if I pick them myself. I only check it to see if he’s picked one I fancy and, like with the spotlight column,  I’ve trained my eyes not to read any of it.<br>I know its a pain when he’s highlighted one you fancy but he is doing a job and I’d imagine, he is obliged to make selections even when he doesn’t really fancy anything. It’s the way people take it so serious or personal against the man I don’t understand.<br>I met himself and Mr. Willoughby at The Curragh last year directly after GW’s dissapointing run behind Araafa and I must say he seemed very friendly and pleasent, as was JW.<br>Maybe there is something I’m missing that some of ye more clued in forumites could fill me in on. <br>
(Edited by heffo at 2:40 pm on June 20, 2007)
what form with passager? that horse was third in a terrible lockinge, (i kno ramonti went on to win yesterday but thats hardly boostin the form the way she was ridden at newbury) and then third to nothin in particular in France. Just don’t see it personally.
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