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  • #1763968
    Avatar photoWilts
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    Allegedly,
    Starmer’s office were told back in September, by The Independent, about Mandelson’s failed vetting.

    There is no way that McSweeney, Lammy and Starmer wouldnt have been told, back then.

    Toast i tell thee; he’s toast.

    #1763976
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Starmer clearly said Mandelson had cleared vetting. That was either a lie; or if he didn’t know, why did he confidently assert that he had been cleared?

    https://x.com/CPhilpOfficial/status/2044837695780782320/mediaviewer

    #1763977
    Richard88
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    ‘Accused of’, ‘allegedly’, quote marks used around references to lying in newspaper headlines.

    Clearly nobody in the media has anything to stand up their claims as yet.

    #1763980
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Quoting Chris Philp, the man who didn’t know Rwanda and the Congo were different countries?

    😂

    #1763997
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    So what? Did he make up the clip?

    #1763999
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    The man’s a complete idiot, that’s what. You could at least try to cite people with some semblance of credibility.

    #1764003
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    I had never heard of the man and frankly I don’t care if you like the source or not. The clip is there, it is not his work and is available to view on plenty of other platforms.

    You cannot deny Starmer said what he said. For someone who claims to be his opponent, you seem to be going out of your way to die on a hill for him.

    Coming from someone who responded last night to the story being broken by “The Guardian” by whining that it was “Yet another mountain being made out of a molehill by the rightwing media”, I would go easy on calling anyone else “a complete idiot”. 😂😂

    #1764037
    homersimpson
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    Doesn’t look good on Starmer and I expect he’ll resign after the local elections which will no doubt be a disaster for Labour. Who’ll take over though as there are no stand out candidates?

    Thing is Trump has done 100 things worse than this whilst being in office this time around nevermind the 4 previous years yet somehow he’s still here.

    And how did Johnson last so long? I think prorouging Parliament very shortly after becoming PM, which was deemed to be unlawful, was worse than what Starmer has done.

    Hopefully Badenoch won’t be next as she’s making a right pig’s ear of being leader of the opposition.

    #1764048
    Avatar photoWilts
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    “Hopefully Badenoch won’t be next as she’s making a right pig’s ear of being leader of the opposition.”

    Erm….not true.

    She has the best approval ratings of all the leaders, in the very latest polls.

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    Johnson did so many bad things it’s easy to forget most of them. Being hungover at an airport after partying with Lebedev ( who then got into the HOL’s) meant that he shouldn’t even have become party leader. I remember saying re the proroguing of parliament incident ‘he’s toast’ and yet how long did he go on for after that? I’m beginning to wish Keir had stayed in his previous job. I do believe that he became an MP for all the right reasons and wants to make this country a better place but from the minute Labour won the election the media ( and his own party) were out to get him. Maybe it’s because he’s bringing us closer to Europe and we can’t have that can we.

    #1764054
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    I think Polanski’s is better Wilts. So she’s beating

    Clown Ed Davey
    Starmer
    And Farage.

    Not exactly great opposition.

    #1764056
    Avatar photoWilts
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    Latest, from More In Common, fieldwork 10-13 April:

    Badenoch -13
    Davey -14
    Polanski -19
    Farage -20
    Starmer -43

    #1764060
    Richard88
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    Whilst ‘best’ is technically correct, ‘least bad’ is probably a better way of putting it.

    A quick search shows March 26 (so a bit older but hardly ancient history) YouGov polling having Davey and Polanski at the ‘top’ with each on -14, Badenoch -25, Farage -39, Starmer -48.

    As ever it depends who you ask.

    #1764066
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Wilts do yourself a favour and watch her at PMQs , if she’s so good how come the Tories are in the wilderness , I’ll repeat as well if she was in charge we,d be in this war with Iran , no thanks , she’s useless and if they go to an election with her they’ll be destroyed …

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1764072
    Richard88
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    Badenoch may be dreadful (it’s about far more than PMQs, few actually watch or pay any attention to it, at most they see the odd clip on the news) but we’re talking about the Tory party as a whole here and their numbers haven’t really moved significantly in either direction in recent months.

    There will be an element of ‘dyed in the wool’ support but I can see a return of some right wing voters eventually. Assuming it’s three years to the next election (watch the ‘year of three PMs’ Tories call for one should Starmer go) then people will have had plenty of chance to see what a pig’s ear Reform will make of running councils if results go as expected in a few weeks. Given that both parties are offering much the same thing, right wing voters could return, seeing them as the safer pair of hands amongst the right wing parties. Why vote for Farage’s Tory tribute act when you could have the real thing back?

    Farage has said a couple of times that he thinks there’ll be an election in 2027. Why? Because he knows he’s peaking and the longer it goes on, the more he can see support drifting away.

    #1764082
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Farage will be leading the calls for an election if Starmer goes.

    To borrow a phrase, he knows Reform will be toast by 2029.

    #1764293
    Blackcountry Kid
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    What a different world Starmer now lives in.
    As leader of the opposition he would demand the government of the day took responsibility for whatever happened on their watch. Now the situation is reversed he pleads ignorance of all things and others should carry the can.
    Dan Hodges also says Downing St was informed last Sept ….. they denied it at the time.
    good luck to all

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