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‘scummy arb player’!
Once again, there’s nothing wrong with hoovering up a few quid if one can take advantage of the vagaries and inefficiencies of the market.
Surely a truly successful form student (of which I am certainly not one) is always going to dislike a person who is just ‘hovering up the plankton’ by following market moves, corm?
They both involve skill of a sort, but I know which one would feel more fulfilling and which would engender a simple smugness at achieving a very small % profit on turnover.
What confuses me yet further is the way the price players seem to think others should join in the game (fools not to take the arbs…) when every person doing so would reduce the percentage take?
Going back to the original point to this thread, it’s Tom’s writing style that was under comment rather than his tipping skills. For that, I strongly agree with TDK. His logic has appeared flawed to me on a fair number of occasions. However, his long term record on tipping is difficult to argue with.
Quote: ….and then third to nothin in particular in France. Just don’t see it personally.<br>
That ‘nothing in particular’ race in France (the Group 2 Prix du Muget) is the best all aged mile race in France until the autumn.<br>
erm no actually it wasnt it was the Prix Chemin Fer Du Nord AFTER the Lockinge just like I said, don’t correct me with errors.
she was 3 lengths behind Turtle bowl and was good for that beating. she was also well back from Passager and my point was that that horse has hardly covered itself in glory since. though i will admit it has hardly been a disgrace either i was trying to say the form is not all that impressive rather than terrible.
More Segal rubbish
<b>’Peter Chapple-Hyam isn’t entirely convinced he’s a sprinter , and to be totally honest neither am I'</b> – therefore I’m rather suprised to see him tip the horse with a 2pt win bet.
<b>’At Royal Ascot he chased to fast a pace'</b> – Does anyone else other than Segal think the St James Palace was run at an overly-strong pace? I thought it was steadyish, hence why he and a couple of other runners pulled.
while I am not a huge fan of segals his is usually an opinion I respect if not agree with. I think you’ve done him a bit of an injustice by quoting he isnt convinced dutch art is an out and out sprinter without mentioning he goes on to say he may not need to be as he has so much natural speed. I didnt think the pace was overly strong at ascot either but I think the point was more that he chased it rather than settling in behind it because in a straight sprint to the line DA would have more gas than most.
The man stated that Sander Camillo was over-hyped as a juvenile, and has run abismally on both starts this season, but tipped her up regardless on the strength of a nod he had from the yard.
Class act.
I think it’s just simply a case of Sander Camillo having not trained on.
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I think your being unfair there LGR. For starters he said she was OVERhyped as a juv, he didn’t say she was no good or anything. Also the way I’d read it is that he has respect for Noseda, who implies she could beat ST on gd/fm so at 40/1 she’s worth a few bob. I don’t normally read Pricewise but just checked it out because of the comments here. He ain’t exactly Mr. popular with some of ye I notice.
What is there to be unfair about?
He’s advising people to back a horse, who he has clearly stated was over-hyped as a juvenile and has done nothing to convince him of her ability this season, on the strength of something he believes may be true. Something which could only have come from someone connected to the horse (saying one horse will beat another, only on fast ground, is fairly specific to simply be circumspect assumption). And to do that, no matter the price, in a top class sprint is completely ridiculous, totally unfathomable.
I think he got exactly what he deserved, another loser to add to his string of duck eggs – and a well beaten loser at that.
And the most gauling thing is the esteem in which he is held, the pedastel he is placed upon. Granted, he’s found plenty of winners in the past, but who hasn’t? I would suggest there are at least half a dozen people on TRF alone that could show him the way in the betting stakes, and apply sound reasoning to go with it,
We ran a Pricewise challenge a year or two back where TRF members were invited to select horses against Pricewise. Pricewise performed really well and there were only a couple of trf’ers ahead of him by the end of the 6 months or so we ran it for.
Just to be clear, I’m not knocking his tipping prowess. His stats over the last 5 years speak for themselves. I’m knocking the shite he writes to justify them.
Indeed DJ. Wasn’t it a couple of years ago he decided that there was no point in taking draw biases into account only to choose ‘one from each side’ at the Gt St Wilfrid a couple of weeks later? (yes, he did get the winner…!)
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