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    Landafar
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    Maybe the BBC will, oh hang on, they like their funding.

    #1752080
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    “UKIP still exists, it’s now a fringe group of nutters”.

    I remember someone once advised “Private Eye” that UKIP’s leader Paul Nuttall was a lookalike with Eddie Hitler, Adrian Edmondson’s character in “Bottom”.

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    #1752082
    Richard88
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    That lookalike is very good and I always have time for a Bottom reference.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yv97e7j5lo

    Apparently Braverman is a ‘big beast’. Jesus wept.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    It’s almost as if Nigel is desperate … I didn’t think I could hate a politician as much as Nigel but Jesus Braverman runs him close …odious

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    Voters in this country must ask themselves if they want the UK to end up exactly like the USA. In the USA immigrants are rounded up by ICE (Trump’s Gestapo) wheeled off to prison and then flown out to other countries. If they resist, they are shot.

    Farage is an avid supporter of Trump and like Trump he sees immigration as a key issue. To promote his cause, like Trump, he seeks to terrify the nation by exaggerating the problem. He ignores the fact that we need immigrants to keep our NHS going and to look after the elderly in care homes.

    So vote in Farage and you will destroy the NHS. My view is that this is a secret aim; make people pay for private health care so the super rich can get richer through reduced taxation.

    Do we really want to be like the USA, which is currently disintegrating into chaos?

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    It’s not just immigrants, though. US citizens are being rounded up/deported/murdered.

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    Obviously the NHS and care for the elderly are reliant on immigrants, but the UK has lergely flourished on the back of immigration for centuries. For Braverman, the daughter of two immigrants, to have been so hard-line on immigration while in office makes me want to weep. I know irony has been a no-no in political life since the sound-bite media era began, but now self-awareness is apparently an optional extra. One of the things that worries me about the appalling Farage is that he at least does seem aware that his continuing to pull the wool over the eyes of the nation is a joke, albeit in poor taste. Every time I see a photo of him grinning as he fondles his latest Tory deserter I wonder if he’s still amazed how many more rats he can pull aboard.

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    When I was young I asked my father, who was a soldier throughout world war two, how the German population allowed someone like Hitler to thrive. He said that it could easily happen here, son, we have to be careful.

    I could not imagine how it could happen here But we are very close. In the USA Trump acts as if he were Hitler and his ICE mob are no different than the Gestapo. Now Farage is a Trump fan, who like him, hates immigrants. In a few years we could follow. It seems, sadly that my father was right all those years ago!

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    I’ve been trying to explain this to people in the pub for ten years now.

    Incidentally what happened to the big name Labour person that was supposed to join Farage and his band?

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    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
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    Autocracy is the norm, democracy the exception.

    The latter flourished in the West for an unusually long time following the horrors of WW2 because there’s been, until now, a generation who witnessed the carnage first hand and were able to drum into the succeeding generation ‘never again’. They’re all but gone, the desecration is now ‘distant history’, and the only ones left with a tangible link to the war are those whose parents and relations fought in it or lived through it: the likes of Value31 and I, ourselves now in our 60s and 70s

    So, we ‘boomers’ can at least understand and fear what’s happening today, while the younger generations are more or less unaware

    History teaches us that man learns nothing from history

    The quintessential truism :negative:

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    Democracy is a myth. It’s just been sold very effectively to the masses.

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    So, we ‘boomers’ can at least understand and fear what’s happening today, while the younger generations are more or less unaware

    I seldom have reason to challenge your always eloquent postings but voters undoubtedly tend right with age. I’m not a massive fan of polling but a recent one I saw showed support for Reform peaking in the 60-69 cohort and actually taking a slight dip in the 70+ bracket. Whilst the ‘Toryform’ vote does indeed increase with every age bracket, The Blue Team enjoys a slight uptick in support with the very oldest. A function of there being more ‘dyed in the wool’ types or the fact that it’s the only group with any form of lived experience of ‘The War’ and its related horrors I can only speculate.

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    “… voters undoubtedly tend right with age.“

    Doesn’t mean that everyone does, though. Indeed, there are already signs that people in their 40s and 50s who either have never been able to get onto the property ladder or got thrown off it are no longer making the seemingly inevitable drift to the political right with age.

    Conservatism doesn’t work if people have nothing to conserve.

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    value31
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    The problem is that Farage and his ultra-right supporters are being financed by American billionaires who want us to turn us into TrumpSA. This means eliminating immigrants, abolishing the NHS and reducing taxes for the super rich. Of course, they will not tell the electorate this truth. Rather the campaign will focus on how immigrants are holding the UK back and how everyone will be better off when they are gone. Their campaign will be ‘Only Reform will make things better’.

    I worry because it was obvious that the Leave Campaign lied, lied, lied and lied again, but a majority fell for it. Remember the billions we would save by not contributing to the European Union and all of this money would go to the NHS. Ha Ha!

    With the right wing press pulishing utter nonsense supporting Farage & Co, will the electorate fall for it all over again?

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    I think one of their backers is a climate change denier. It’s beyond me how people can see what’s happening in America but still support Reform.No matter what they do nothing sticks and yet the government just get constant criticism.

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    “will the electorate fall for it all over again?”

    Yes, because they’re idiots.

    Open Democracy is always well worth a read:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/reform-nigel-farage-business-lobbying-be-in-cabinet-policies-deregulation-finance/

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