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“I could not imagine how it could happen here”.
Two very young film makers, Kevin Brownlow and Andrew Mollo, did sort of imagine it in their counter-factual film “It Happened Here” (1964). It imagined a Britain which had been invaded and occupied, with some people choosing to be collaborators.
It was highly controversial at the time, so much so that United Artists cut 10 minutes out of the film (which Brownlow put back in when he regained the rights many years later).
The film took 8 years to make, with filming happening whenever Brownlow was able to cobble together enough money. He later quipped that it took longer to film than the war took to fight.
One of Reform’s main financial supporters is a Lancashire multimillionaire named David Haythornthwaite. He made his fortune in animal feed but has now expanded his business interests into hotels and leisure.
He is also the financial backer of AFC Fylde, defeated in the FA Trophy today by Southport FC, the mighty Sandgrounders.
As the great Bjorge Lillelien once said “Your boys took a hell of a beating!”
When I was in “The Black Horse” pub in Preston earlier today, supping a half of Old Tom Ale, I overheard two fellows talking about the news. When one said he intended voting Reform, the other replied “They are just as bad as the others. Don’t you know Farage is a member of the Fabian Society?”
Now, I have often thought there was more to Farage than met the eye. I am not convinced he really wanted Brexit to happen. He was making quite a nice living for himself just talking about it.
Likewise I am not sure he really wants to be Prime Minister, which would involve being responsible for decisions. I also think he is more a part of the Establishment he affects to oppose than he would have us believe.
But to suggest he is in the Fabian Society and is somehow a left wing double agent behind enemy lines is a conspiracy theory too far!
It sounds like our fellow has spent a bit too much time on the internet..
I chatted to someone last year who worked on LBC Radio for James O’Brien and used to deal with Farage. He told me that, unlike a lot of politicians, he was really nice to work with. He also said he didn’t think he actually wanted to be PM, but that he just enjoys the power that he seems to have over people. It’s all about the thrill of the chase with him.
I’d imagine he enjoys all the attention and the concomitant coin rolling into his bank account even more.
Moe if that’s true it’s even more unsettling , why in God’s earth is he then parading about pretending he should be the next PM
Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026
The same person also told me that he thought Reform would win the next election. Maybe Farages paymasters just want him to get their party into power. Voted in by the very people that need a government that will help the poor and underprivileged. As if.
I wouldn’t be in the O’Brien fan club by any means but I believe his interpretation of Farage is plausible.
I seldom have reason to challenge your always eloquent postings but voters undoubtedly tend right with age. I’m not a massive fan of polling but a recent one I saw showed support for Reform peaking in the 60-69 cohort and actually taking a slight dip in the 70+ bracket. Whilst the ‘Toryform’ vote does indeed increase with every age bracket, The Blue Team enjoys a slight uptick in support with the very oldest. A function of there being more ‘dyed in the wool’ types or the fact that it’s the only group with any form of lived experience of ‘The War’ and its related horrors I can only speculate.
Points taken Richard and the familiar drift rightwards with increasing age certainly outnumbers a drift leftwards. However, I’d contend that drift towards a traditional ‘blue’ right is a world away from a drift towards the ultra-right extremism of fascism and nazism; and those amongst we oldsters who espouse such ideology are miniscule in proportion to those who simply become more conservative.
Farage and the washed-up has-beens and never-weres he’s recruited to Reform might ostensibly be labelled ‘far-right’ but they aren’t fascists. No, that movement and those who say they’ll vote for them represent a rather desperate revolt against a political system that’s largely failed the electorate for decades and now feel they have nowhere else to go. Brexit was the same: little to do with being in the EU, much more just a kick up the collective jacksies of the establishment
However in the USA, those supposedly subordinate to Trump are an altogether darker more focussed (and younger) bunch whose planned path seems to be heading towards ultra-right authoritarianism with a malodorous whiff of fascism. Subordinate in name but anything but: Trump is just their puppet and useful idiot.
Not sure whether I’ve actually addressed your points constructively, but that’ll do me.
“I wouldn’t be in the O’Brien fan club by any means”
I can understand why – after all, who needs journalists who provide actual facts to support their position these days?
It wasn’t O’Brien but someone who worked with him and dealt with the politicians that were on the programme. So probably got to know them quite well.
Not sure whether I’ve actually addressed your points constructively, but that’ll do me.
It’ll do me too, thank you for replying
The lashing out at the Establishment is entirely understandable, indeed I sympathise with that sentiment. It’s just a shame that people do so in a way that won’t improve their lot one bit and in the case of Reform, simply voting for the Establishment masquerading otherwise.
As Gladders notes it will be interesting to see how political opinion develops as the current younger folk grow older.
“Let’s make the country as unwelcoming as possible for people from overseas!”
Then see the consequences when overseas students stop coming…
Farage puts pints over poverty with plan to cut price of beer by reinstating two-child benefit cap
Nice to see you’ve got your priorities straight, Nige.
Great, so pints may be a pound cheaper in two to three years and that’s according to Farage so that figure will have been stretched to the limits of its elasticity. The figures have already been shown to be hogwash. Hardly surprising from the people who thought Truss had the best budget in decades.
Even if beer somehow got cheaper, how much more expensive would other things get?
Reform couldn’t even get their MPs to vote correctly, and it was the two allegedly experienced ones that cocked it up.
Anyone who actually studies Reform’s policies and STILL supports them is either very, very stupid or a racist, plain and simple.
And quite possibly both.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0n5d831mqo
How much fuss would the RWNJ be kicking up if the victim had been white? 🤔
They’d be demanding that the killer be identified… and if he were called Khaleed all hell would break loose.
Double standards? Nah.
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