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I see the McCanns are now back in the UK (and asking for privacy).
This is going to fuel a lot of speculation.
While there are a number of reasons why they’d return just after being declared suspects, most of these reasons point to a breakdown in their relationship with the portuguese police.
e.g.
– that they believe they’re about to be charged and are going to resist being sent back to Portugal by claiming they’re being framed.
or
– that they feel the locals have become too hostile towards them
or
– that they feel the portuguese police are no longer interested in looking for the child, so they’ve given up hope.
or
– they came back to try to make the story die in the hope/understanding that the portuguese police will be will happy to do the same.
Steve
hi steve
way i see it:
– the parents arrive in the countryl with a 4 year old girl
– the parents are now unable to account for her whereabouts
– there are many things that could have happened
– its the job of the police to find out what actually happened
– the parents appear to want the police to follow only one possibility, abduction by persons unknown
if the parents’ idea of a relationship is that the police do only what the parents want, its about time they were disabused of that idea.
the police are professionals and will act in the interests of the child without fear or favour.
if the parents regard that as a breakdown of a relationship, so be it.
in a type of incident where statistically the family / carers usually turn out to be the culprits, it would appear that in the eyes of the police there are aspects of the parents’ account that don’t quite add up.
there’s only one certain victim here at the moment, and its not the parents
they may be seen as victims in future – one hopes they will – but looks like they’re not there yet.
also, the reports i read had it that they were coming back to the uk before the latest developments, and they have just continued with that plan.
dj,
dare one suggest you’ve been watching too much tv? its not real, mate
best regards
wit
What I dont understand is why a lot of people in the country have overlooked the fact that they left this girl and her siblings alone.
ITV news did a timeline on friday
Gerry checked Madeline at 9pm
A friend went back at 9.10pm
Kate checked on her at 10pm and found she was gone – 50 Minutes without checking and the disgusting press in this country say nothing and have the cheek to slag off the Portugese Press, the slimy tabloids would have had a string em up campaign on anyone elseHowever, there is also, in my view, at least an equal chance Maddie is currently with her new ‘Mum & Dad’ is surburbia somewhere either in this country or elsewhere, having been abucted and possible sold for profit.
A very live possibility, and one I don’t think has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread so far. Notwithstanding Madeleine’s distinctive right eye, which could always be covered by sunglasses or similar, the longer she remains unaccounted for the harder it could be for her to be recognised. She’s clearly not at the same stage yet by any means, but you will remember that attempts to locate the abducted toddler Ben Needham became increasingly more forlorn over time as it was factored in that he wouldn’t look much like the toddler he was when snatched several years previously.
Time really is of the essence in this case.
Also, I think the way the Police in Portugal have been portrayed is a sad indictment of the standard of press we have in this country. At no time has there been a real attempt to explain the Portuguese legal system and processes involved. Far simplier of course to portray them in an Inspector Clouseau manner. The fact that the Portuguese do things differently doesn’t by implication mean they do them any worse than the British legal system…
Very true. More broadcasting hours than ever to fill, and yet less / no time dedicated to even a beginners’ guide to Portuguese law. A poor show.
gc
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What I dont understand is why a lot of people in the country have overlooked the fact that they left this girl and her siblings alone.
It wasn’t overlooked in the opening fractions of the whole affair, but Kate and Gerry were quick (savvy? articulate?) enough to exhibit enough remorse and contrition over their dereliction of duties to deflect what might otherwise have been a far mightier sh*t-storm headed their way.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
On the subject of Ben Needham, having only been 15 when he disappeared and not the slightest bit interested in the news at that age, did he get all the publicity and public outcry, I do remember it well because he was from sheffield locally it was a major discussion, but Im sure it was nevered covered in the way Madeline McCann has and theres the real possibity this will go the same way and 16 years down the line we will be no nearer to finding Madeline either.
Whatever happened to "Innocent till proven guilty"? Mind you, to mix threads I’ve just finished reading "The Innocent Man" by John Grishom. Horrific but true!
dj, dare one suggest you’ve been watching too much tv? its not real, mate
.. and may I be so bold to suggest that you haven’t. Barry George ?!?
On the subject of Ben Needham, having only been 15 when he disappeared and not the slightest bit interested in the news at that age, did he get all the publicity and public outcry, I do remember it well because he was from sheffield locally it was a major discussion, but Im sure it was nevered covered in the way Madeline McCann has and theres the real possibity this will go the same way and 16 years down the line we will be no nearer to finding Madeline either.
Well back then there was never the type of media coverage there is now. The internet to all intents and purposes didn’t exist when Ben disappeared.
Unless it was picked up on the wire I doubt it would have got much coverage outside of the UK and Greece.
Whereas this case is on every news website in existence and is probably mentioned on a million blogs around the world, that along with 24 hour news service on TV and radio ensure a day doesn’t go by without coverage of one form or another.
Whether that is good or bad remains to be seen.I made up my mind on this one after listening to Jenny Murray’s interview with Kate McCann on the BBC in early August:
Interstingly she says she welcomes being a suspect at the time of the interview and supports the Portugese Police how things change in a month.
So she says she felt it was incredibly safe to leave her children alone in a country shes never been too and she says children dont usually wake up huh they dont eh!
But most of all theres no emotion not a sign of a breakdown when Madelines name is mentioned
Steve…to quote Wittgenstein ‘…walking up and down rubbing your forehead doesn’t mean your thinking….’
If I were in the McCann’s position I don’t know how I would react. There is no textbook as far as I’m aware.
BTW, I’m not an apologist for the McCann’s. I neither believe they did or didn’t kill Madeline. If we are to judge them let’s do it in a court in face of the evidence.
This bashing of the Portuguese is typically British and typically ignorant.
Yet when the Met were under similar pressure from the media to produce the killer of Suzanne Dando from the magician’s hat, after months of largely arid investigation they settled on charging a deluded, psychotic eccentric with a Freddie Mercury fetish, a dirty flat, sweaty socks and a recycled pushbike.
Familyless, friendless, largely unmissable. Barry George’s conviction took the heat out of the situation and until recently, the masses forgot his existence.
Job done.
The Portuguese system seems rigorous and balanced and impervious to political pressure and if they have suspicions about the McCanns, then I’m inclined to listen carefully without making a shoot-from-the-hip judgement.
Steve…to quote Wittgenstein ‘…walking up and down rubbing your forehead doesn’t mean your thinking….’
If I were in the McCann’s position I don’t know how I would react. There is no textbook as far as I’m aware.
BTW, I’m not an apologist for the McCann’s. I neither believe they did or didn’t kill Madeline. If we are to judge them let’s do it in a court in face of the evidence.
Well it would be pointless talking about anything if we all sat on the fence and waited until a court date, there may never be one so thats what we are doing until they do
Yet when the Met were under similar pressure from the media to produce the killer of Suzanne Dando from the magician’s hat, after months of largely arid investigation they settled on charging a deluded, psychotic eccentric with a Freddie Mercury fetish, a dirty flat, sweaty socks and a recycled pushbike.
…and lest we forget poor Stefan Kiszko – the easiest of easy collars – wrongly convicted of the murder of Lesley Molseed. He spent 16 traumatic, brutal years inside and it was left to his aged mother to fight a lone battle to overturn the conviction.
Both died shortly after his eventual pardon and release
A desperate, ghastly affair that should never be forgotten – not by the public, nor the police, nor the judiciary.
30+ years on someone else has been charged with the girl’s murder.
Steve…to quote Wittgenstein ‘…walking up and down rubbing your forehead doesn’t mean your thinking….’
.. classy ..
…and lest we forget poor Stefan Kiszko – the easiest of easy collars – wrongly convicted of the murder of Lesley Molseed. He spent 16 traumatic, brutal years inside and it was left to his aged mother to fight a lone battle to overturn the conviction.
Both died shortly after his eventual pardon and release
A desperate, ghastly affair that should never be forgotten – not by the public, nor the police, nor the judiciary.
30+ years on someone else has been charged with the girl’s murder.
That was a terrible business. I remember there was a doco/film made about it (very well done too) and I felt so sorry for this poor man and his mother – not to mention the victim.
Ronald Castree (53) pleaded not guilty when he appeared at Bradford Crown Court on Thursday 19th April 2007.
He has been in custody since his arrest in November 2006 after DNA evidence led to his identification.
He was remanded in custody until his trial on 22 October 2007.
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