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I am not at all sure she has had anything to do with the little girl’s death (and I don’t for a minute think she’s still alive) but I don’t think for a moment they have been telling the entire truth about that night.
Reminds me so much of the Lindy Chamberlain case in Australia – to this day no one really knows the truth except those directly involved.Crizzy’s been slagged off for starting a thread called “what do you do” but no-one’s picked up on this even more ludicrous thread/rant?
Tha’s because this is in the lounge, which is the home of the ludicrous.
If you go through the lounge archives, you’ll read posts on such diverse topics ranging from “the best way for Kotkijet to top himself” to “the films stevedvg is willing to sit through if he thinks he’ll get his ‘freak on’ afterwards”.
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Ive said they were guilty from the start but why is she the only one a suspect why not him theres just something so wrong about the whole thing.
If she is guilty I cant wait to see the humble pie itv news and there completely appalling news team will have to eat.
The media is completely on their side what happened to balance if a teenage single chav mother had left her chilldren alone can you imagine theyd get the same treatment the british public is so fickle.
………. “the films stevedvg is willing to sit through if he thinks he’ll get his ‘freak on’ afterwards”.
Steve [/i]
They’re still felling trees in the Amazon basin to make enough paper for that Almanac.
Why don’t they just publish it online? Sheesh.
If she is guilty I cant wait to see the humble pie itv news and there completely appalling news team will have to eat.
Absolutely, I agree entirely.
And while they’re at it, perhaps the tabloid media could also review their cringeworthy portrayal of the Portuguese police as Keystone Cops incompetents …….. and the embarassing innuendo that suggests the fine and proud country of Portugal is populated by a mass of paedophiles.
I read that sniffer dogs have found the scent of a corpse on Kate’s clothes, on Madalines teddy bear and in the boot of the car and i also find it strange that there was blood in the car as well?
Blood on the walls, in the car, scents of her mothers clothes hmmm it’s just too much of coinsidence to meIn saying that though i would hate to think her mother or father had anything to do with it accidental or not! But at least now i think the police are getting somewhere
Crizzy’s been slagged off for starting a thread called "what do you do" but no-one’s picked up on this even more ludicrous thread/rant?
.. yeah the place is really going to the dogs ..
Anyway, I don’t think the Mother did it. I think the police are totally flumoxed and don’t know what to do next. Instead of doing some clever detective work they are, in a round about way, telling the McCanns to get out of Portugal or get charged and spend the next 12 months on remand.
That is 12 months in prison, innocent or guilty .. while they fill forms in, smoke strong cigarettes and generally be pathetically be southern european.
Are the McCanns no running away? Funny they stayed in Portugal and were admament they werent leaving and suddenly after being declared suspects there on the first plane back.
The whole situation has been strange from start to now I bet some Hollywood producers already got a script ready.
Ive said they were guilty from the start but why is she the only one a suspect why not him theres just something so wrong about the whole thing.
Both have been status arguido as of Friday evening.
If she is guilty I cant wait to see the humble pie itv news and there completely appalling news team will have to eat.
…or alternatively just kick around for 12 months or so until they’re released, then tune in to the Martin Bashir interview where, in fear of being strung up by their erstwhile neighbours in Leicestershire, they have gone into hiding and are enduring A Living Nightmare ™. I can’t imagine ITV will display any particular degree of contrition if the worst fears are confirmed.
The media is completely on their side what happened to balance if a teenage single chav mother had left her chilldren alone can you imagine theyd get the same treatment the british public is so fickle.
I don’t think it’s simply a matter of being on their side per se; rather, in Kate and Gerry McCann, we have a couple who are capable of providing more voluminous and articulate copy / soundbites than the “whoever nicked me kidz, them is scum!!”-type utterances of Mr and Mrs J Chav. A generalisation, perhaps, but not much of one.
A colleague of mine has suspected both, and particularly Kate, from the get-go, his logic being that at no point has Kate ever looked that much like the grieving mother going through the emotional mill. I think I’d treat that with some degree of caution, though, as everyone has their own way of coping with all that life throws at them; and if in Kate’s case that means still looking very well turned-out, and stoic in even the most depressing of press conferences, then so be it.
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The whole situation has been strange from start to now I bet some Hollywood producers already got a script ready.
I’d thought that as well. There’s going to be some unscrupulous Hollywood writer or studio out there who will already be writing the screenplay of the film and updating it daily with every new development.
If not them, then certainly some lizard from the Crime and Detection digital channel will be.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
in cases like this everyone has an opinion and i fear, a desire to see their opinion right, they want it to be what they think happened – thats the nature of whodunnits tho it seems a bit sick to me
What I find most disturbing about this whole case is the undercurrent of suspicion and now glee direct to towards the McCann’s guilt. In most cases it seems to stem from people with a desire to deflect the reality of their own miserable existence by gaining some sort of perceived moral high ground.
The simple fact is a little girl is still missing and all attention should be direct towards finding her. There is of course a very real chance that the dead body of Maddie may turn up at which point the police inqueries should leave no stone unturned, including questioning the parents. However, there is also, in my view, at least an equal chance Maddie is currently with her new ‘Mum & Dad’ is surburbia somewhere either in this country or elsewhere, having been abucted and possible sold for profit.
Also, I think the way the Police in Portugal have been portrayed is a sad indictment of the standard of press we have in this country. At no time has there been a real attempt to explain the Portuguese legal system and processes involved. Far simplier of course to portray them in an Inspector Clouseau manner. The fact that the Portuguese do things differently doesn’t by implication mean they do them any worse than the British legal system.
It’s easy to assume with a bit of amateur psychology, it’s even easier to guess and without the responsibility of weighing the real evidence, if any, it’s easy to condemn. Let’s all hope it never happens to any of us one day.
Would just like to add my rant isn’t aimed at anyone on this thread or forum, which as is to be expected generally balanced with good posts.
Just something I wanted to express generally.
in Western Europe:
a. child abduction by someone unknown to the child is rare
and
b. child homicide by someone unknown to the child is rare.
the duty of the police is to the missing child – living or dead – and not to its family or anyone else.
the police are to be congratulated for holding to that principle in the face of what they have had to face from quarters with perhaps other interests and focuses.
seems to me the police have to pursue both possibilities – abduction and murder.
if they have actual evidence that points more strongly in one direction, if i was their boss i would want to know why they were not putting the effort there.
plus, in this case, what more exactly is it thought could be done from an abduction/ search angle ?
unfortunately family and friends are often most vehement and least objective in these situations – what they are convinced is insight is in reality too often blinkers.
imo, anyone with the interests of the missing child at heart – not that of the parents, not that of the siblings, but of the missing child itself – would not be looking to deflect or direct a professional police force from doing what they consider right for the victim.
and its not like they’ve been turning away British expertise offered to assist.
i don’t care if the family are well-intentioned. the impact of their actions is the same whether they are well-intentioned or not.
that may sound heartless – it isn’t.
its putting the focus where it ought to be – helping the actual victim, one way or the other.
best regards
wit
One of the best comments on the whole sorry saga I have seen anywhere Wit.
Whether or not the truth ever comes out, I just hope the little girl is safe and not suffering in anyway shape or form.I think the way the Police in Portugal have been portrayed is a sad indictment of the standard of press we have in this country. At no time has there been a real attempt to explain the Portuguese legal system and processes involved. Far simplier of course to portray them in an Inspector Clouseau manner. The fact that the Portuguese do things differently doesn’t by implication mean they do them any worse than the British legal system.
I agree.
I think it’s a lot to do with the lack of information supplied by the Portuguese police (because of their rules) causing a vacuum which is filled with both rumour and the suggestion that they’re not doing much about the case.
I think we should remember some similar cases in the UK.
For example, in my city, Caroline Hogg was abducted in 1983 and, although the body was found 10 days later, the killer didn’t stand trial until 1994.
So, the notions that the british police would have it all wrapped up by now isn’t really backed up by the facts.
(also, how many kids are missing in the UK having been abducted?)
Steve
I don’t think the Portugesse police have a clue where she is and I don’t believe they have any evidence either. If they did, they would have charged the parents.
I think they want the McCanns out of Portugal for political reasons. This latest so called ‘twist’ has co-incided with the parents suing a local newspaper not with an new evidence IMO.
It’s easy to blame the victim, it happens all of the time, all over the world. Until they actually recover a body, or come up with some real evidence that proves anything, this whole sorry saga will go on.
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