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- May 19, 2009 at 01:26 #228582
Bookmakers starting to price up.
Betfred
Amour Propre 9/4
Borderlescott 5/1
Equiano 5/1
Tax Free 6/1
Spin Cycle 14/1
Masterplasta 16 /1
Rievalux World 16/1
20’s BARTo be honest I’m on the Amour Propre bandwagon, I thought he won in some style last time out and he has a very unique action, he just seemed to hover down the Rowley Mile and he seems to do bounce his hind legs, maybe just cause he is small and all his opponents are massive. All form pointed that he had a great chance out for that with 2 course records under his belt was remarkable there was no market support.
I think he could may well be beat on softer ground though but I think he could rival Overdose on firm, I hear Overdose has firm concerns.
May 19, 2009 at 01:31 #228585
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Amour Propre is undoubtedly talented, and could work his way to the head of the sprinting ranks in a relatively short space of time, but you have to wonder just how well he’ll do under Henry Candy. He’s had some top class animals over the last few years, but the likes of Airwave and Corrybrough failed to achieve all that once looked likely.
As I said before, Borderlescott is a stand out given the forecast ground conditions.
May 19, 2009 at 01:37 #228589Didn’t Ballydoyle get Airwave though.
May 19, 2009 at 03:10 #228618Advanced and Total Gallery for me with the likely cut in the ground, at 25-1 a piece. just had a small e/w on each.
However if were magically to become gd-fm, I’d be all over Spin Cycle. That looks fairly unlikely at the minute though, and I think he’ll be a better bet for ascot.
May 19, 2009 at 11:28 #228637Advanced and Total Gallery for me with the likely cut in the ground, at 25-1 a piece. just had a small e/w on each.
However if were magically to become gd-fm, I’d be all over Spin Cycle. That looks fairly unlikely at the minute though, and I think he’ll be a better bet for ascot.
Bul, and you could magically turn on the "Spin cycle" to Overload!
May 21, 2009 at 02:59 #229126My recollection of Airwave, who i remember with some affection for a sprinting performance of rare quality in the Temple as a 3yo filly, is that Coolmore purchased her for Broodmare purposes, but she worked so well at home they changed tack and returned her to the track, somewhat bizarrely ending up running her in 1m pattern races.
Back on topic – Equiano is the forgotten horse of the race, a Group 1 winner, the best value in the race, and hopefully the best horse on the day. I’m also on a watching brief for Rievaulx World, who i think has a good race at a better price in him at some stage.
May 21, 2009 at 11:02 #229151Not forgotten about Equiano just think that the horse was better off with Maurice Delcher-Sanchez than with Barry Hills (who doesn’t seem able to win with him).
May 21, 2009 at 11:37 #229157Not forgotten about Equiano just think that the horse was better off with Maurice Delcher-Sanchez than with Barry Hills (who doesn’t seem able to win with him).
Poor show at York! if i was a fan of the horse i would be snapping up all the 16/1 i could get for the Kings stand! That is his target and Mr Hills will
have him primed for it!May 21, 2009 at 13:32 #229181Amour Propre is now a doubt.
May 21, 2009 at 15:11 #229196Amour Propre is now a doubt.
And my pal Tax Free will hate the ground too! so will Masta plasta
IfReverence
cant finish in the 1st 3 now i aint TAPK, supported accordingly!
May 21, 2009 at 19:57 #229240Got to agree with everyone’s favourite muppet here- 20-1 is huge Reverence
May 21, 2009 at 20:48 #229250
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Sesame Street is only 5f long horse hasn’t won over the trip in 5 years and this is a Group race. When’s the last time he ran well in this class?
May 21, 2009 at 22:29 #229279That post sums up why you will always be a short-odds, losing punter. Sure it takes a bit of forgiveness and imagination to back Reverence but his reappearance was decent enough to suggest he might recapture his previous soft ground form which includes a Group One at the track. 5f is fine for him on soft and I guarantee he won’t start 20-1 if he lines up on soft Saturday. Many of those prominent in the market are total unknowns or doubtful runners on the current ground.
May 21, 2009 at 23:07 #229295That post sums up why you will always be a short-odds, losing punter. Sure it takes a bit of forgiveness and imagination to back Reverence but his reappearance was decent enough to suggest he might recapture his previous soft ground form which includes a Group One at the track. 5f is fine for him on soft and I guarantee he won’t start 20-1 if he lines up on soft Saturday. Many of those prominent in the market are total unknowns or doubtful runners on the current ground.
Exactly Carvillshill – and that’s what makes a good AP punter. Knowing what will run and what won’t, the likely ground conditions and narrowing the possibles down to a few probables ie. those that go on the ground, are likely to run, have the ability etc.
May 21, 2009 at 23:26 #229304That post sums up why you will always be a short-odds, losing punter. Sure it takes a bit of forgiveness and imagination to back Reverence but his reappearance was decent enough to suggest he might recapture his previous soft ground form which includes a Group One at the track. 5f is fine for him on soft and I guarantee he won’t start 20-1 if he lines up on soft Saturday. Many of those prominent in the market are total unknowns or doubtful runners on the current ground.
GONZO, you are more than welcome to jump on the bandwagon any time
you like, but there will be a huge rule 4 for those who lack the foresight of
TAPK! Win lose or draw, thats what TAPK does best, finds the big prices
short prices. whatever prices, one 20/1 winner lets me play 19 more times before i lose! Muppet eh!May 21, 2009 at 23:33 #229311That post sums up why you will always be a short-odds, losing punter. Sure it takes a bit of forgiveness and imagination to back Reverence but his reappearance was decent enough to suggest he might recapture his previous soft ground form which includes a Group One at the track. 5f is fine for him on soft and I guarantee he won’t start 20-1 if he lines up on soft Saturday. Many of those prominent in the market are total unknowns or doubtful runners on the current ground.
Exactly Carvillshill – and that’s what makes a good AP punter. Knowing what will run and what won’t, the likely ground conditions and narrowing the possibles down to a few probables ie. those that go on the ground, are likely to run, have the ability etc.
At last someone else who actually thinks like an Ante-post punter should!
Well said Irish, it amazes me how many on here think they know their
horses, and yet time and time again they fail to see the wood for the trees!
or to put it simply haven"t got a clue about Foresight!May 21, 2009 at 23:53 #229316
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You’re beginning to get on my last nerve, TAPK.
Why not concentrate on particpating in meaningful debate, rather than taking every opportunity to either after-time or tell everyone else they know absolutely nothing? My guess is there are more than a handful of people here who, on the subject of ‘knowing their horses’, would put you to unadulterated shame – it’s just sad that you don’t realise it.
Oh, and if you could learn the difference between an apsotrophe and speech/quotation marks, I’d be so grateful.
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