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- June 29, 2011 at 17:10 #362872
People aren’t entitled to their opinion?
June 29, 2011 at 22:19 #362892Course. Here’s mine.
He:
a) doesn’t get 12f
b) isn’t a Group 1 3yo
c) wasn’t a Group 1 2yo
d) has been beaten by the same horse twice and had his dante run reversed easily
e) has been woefully priced all season based on his owner
f) hasn’t a prayer of getting 14f in a van let alone in a Grp1
g) all of the above
June 29, 2011 at 23:37 #362902You have to think that Ballydoyle may finally break their British Classic Hoodoo.
They will run both Memphis Tennesse and Seville as they have no career and will be sold at the end of the season considering the talent retiring to Coolmore this year.
Never a race to look forward the St. Leger and not sure i want to
June 30, 2011 at 16:47 #362990Misty for Me, following her comprehensive defeat of Midday can now make the Holy Trinity of Galileo three year old fillies,joining Galicova and Golden Lilac as the best three year old fillies seen out this year.God alone knows where Wonder of Wonders fits into the Holy Family!
Maybe here Andy?
‘For me’ – she looks as though she will stay better (over this trip) than ‘Snow Fairy’ if that can be said about a dual Oaks winner?!
– On her run at Chester anyways…July 1, 2011 at 13:01 #363089Actually Wonder of Wonders in the St Leger would not be completely mental idea.
That filly of Stacks called Unsung Heroine nearly won it.
July 1, 2011 at 21:15 #363128Actually started my Brown Panther fund off today (7/1)
July 14, 2011 at 18:29 #364707You very rarely get value as good as 10/1 (William Hills) Seville after his Grand Prix de Paris second.
Get On!
Will be more like half that within a few days.
Value Is EverythingJuly 14, 2011 at 20:28 #364720You very rarely get value as good as 10/1 (William Hills) Seville after his Grand Prix de Paris second.
Get On!
Will be more like half that within a few days.
He doesn’t look like he will get the trip from that run.
July 14, 2011 at 21:02 #364726I think he stay the leger trip.In the leger race itself he will have a pacemaker so won’t need to go as fast as he did today in early part of the race.And will stay the extra 2 furlongs.
July 14, 2011 at 22:43 #364731You very rarely get value as good as 10/1 (William Hills) Seville after his Grand Prix de Paris second.
Get On!
Will be more like half that within a few days.
He doesn’t look like he will get the trip from that run.
Yes, because a stamina-bred horse almost making all setting a brisk pace suggests that he won’t stay further when racing prominently or being held-up…honestly, it doesn’t take a genius to work it out based on breeding alone, let alone what he’s looked like in the closing stages of 3 of his last 4 races – short of pace.
July 15, 2011 at 22:06 #364811Will give up if Seville wins the Leger
Youmzain mk 2 he’d be second to anything; he was my early season Leger horse but wouldn’t touch him now with other people’s money
July 15, 2011 at 22:20 #364814Will give up if Seville wins the Leger
Youmzain mk 2 he’d be second to anything; he was my early season Leger horse but wouldn’t touch him now with other people’s money
Love that comment. Backed Masked Marvel too (14s).
July 17, 2011 at 12:21 #364965Will give up if Seville wins the Leger
Youmzain mk 2 he’d be second to anything; he was my early season Leger horse but wouldn’t touch him now with other people’s money
It doesn’t matter to you then BB, that Seville has the best form on offer.

Had most St Leger entries run in the Irish Derby and Prix De Paris, they’d struggle (to say the least) to finish second.
To just dismiss his chances out of hand seems foolhardy to me.
Value Is EverythingJuly 17, 2011 at 12:28 #364966Why would i care about form when the horse is soft/has no will to win?
July 17, 2011 at 12:49 #364969Anything could win the Leger its so open now that the only good thing in Nathaniel has been taken out.
What the point on betting on it when most of them will beach each other rather than actually be a outstanding Group 3 horse that is needed to win the race.
July 17, 2011 at 12:51 #364970Just because a horse finishes second three times does not mean he’s ungenuine BB. A "will to win" does not exist in horses. What there is is a will to be in front. Seemed to me in Paris, Seville loved being in front.
I once had a similar conversation with Mark Winstanley around the paddock at Goodwood just before the 1996 Select stakes. He thought a particular horse who’d finished second in 7 of his last 10 starts was ungenuine. I thought the contrary, believing him very genuine.
That horse being Singspiel.
We all make mistakes.
Value Is EverythingJuly 17, 2011 at 13:19 #364974thanks ginger, had never ever considered that scenario, never..ever
good to be preached to tho
gl with him, like i said i couldn’t be less interested in him, for reasons stated
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