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Brian Boru’s 2003 form pre-Leger; 3042
Bollin Eric’s 2002 form pre-Leger; 32233Actually Rule of Law’s 2004 form isn’t dissimilar to that of Seville’s. 2nd in the Dante, 2nd in the Derby, 4th in the Irish Derby. Seville managed 2nd in the Dante, nowhere in the Derby, 2nd in the Irish Derby and 2nd in the GP de Paris.
Milan in 2001 finished 2354 before being victorious in the Voltigeur followed by the Leger.
I think most of us agree that Nathaniel should win, should he turn up, but that’s extremely doubtful.
Time to bring this back up?Never a race to look forward the St. Leger and not sure i want to
It’s not a race that I like Ruby…
though I will be interested to see who rides pacemaker for ‘Blue Bunting’?
‘WB’ has been used to set pace – whilst it looks as if ‘AA’ has disappeared to Coventry – so could there be any truth in the rumors that went ’round Ascot after the King George that ‘AA’ had gone against orders?!Gary Nutting, who has a great ante-post record this year, fancied Masked Marvel for the Derby, and hasn’t given up on him for the Leger. Nor me. Nor on Apache, either. Both seemed to ooze quality in races earlier in the season, which they won in a manner that impressed everyone.
Grimes – Nutting was on ATR today saying how well he was doing…
Also Jamie Moore spoke on ATR of how Ryan is getting fit for ‘WF’ in the Arc (sounds like it’s the
only
thing that matters to him) – so it backs up story today from the Sproting Life RE: ‘Sea Moon’ going for the Leger first…
should please at least you Darren?!!
The end of the article could of course bring you or any other ‘Moon’ supporters nightmares – though that all depends on how you take your T!!?
BAD MOON RISING FOR ARC SUPPORTERS
By The Marksman
Sea Moon, who is a general 10/1 shot with Sky Bet for the Arc, will follow the St Leger route as a red hot favourite to give Sir Michael Stoute only his second victory in the oldest Classic.
Although there has been no official announcement ruling out an Arc bid, Ryan Moore is aiming to be back in time from his arm injury sustained at Goodwood to partner Workforce at Longchamp.
The three-time former Champion jockey made it clear at the yard earlier this week it was the defending Arc hero who would be the Freemason Lodge representative for his boss as far as he was concerned.
However, what is not in doubt is the stable confidence behind their once fragile colt for the Leger and as long as he arrives at Doncaster in one piece on Saturday week he is the one they all have to beat.
Sea Moon’s preparation following his 8l annihilation of the Great Voltigeur field has gone like clockwork and his work at home since has been designed to boost his confidence.
The type to only ever do just enough whether working with a Group 1 horse or a plater, he was seen striding out purposefully on the Round Gallop earlier this week.
As soon as his work companion’s rider dropped his hands, Sea Moon showed he was on very good terms with himself moving upsides before striding four or five lengths clear in the staged gallop.
Riding plans remain the one headache for Stoute as Richard Hughes, who was on board at York, has been claimed for Census but finding a replacement should not pose a problem.
The Marksman saw Tom Queally’s agent Tony Elves move quicker than Usain Bolt off a false start to corner Stoute on the Knavesmire and his turn of foot was impressive for a man of his stature.
Thanks. I had the feeling Nutting had stable info of some kind when he tipped MM for the Derby, Zenjah. Mordin was also impressed by him, I think when he won pretty effortlessly at Goodwood.
He would be fresher and presumably stronger than Blue Bunting at this point. He looks to me to be better value than Moon, while perhaps at least as good.
Cool!
… there is a vid with Gosden talking about MM on the Racing Post TV section (don’t know if you’ve seen it?) – he says that Fortune reckoned that MM was pulling himself last time – having found the tents a distraction…I wonder about how much ‘BB’ has had left at the end of her races?
(Most seem to take it for granted that she’ll love going further)…
Her tail has gone rather wild when she has come under maximum pressure, whether that is to do with the stick or not – I’m not sure?
But could it be a sign that she is at the end of hers – giving her all – if that’s the case how much has she actually had left to give?!
It might be nothing… (and I’m not knocking her by any means)… yet it’s something to question – and something that I’d want an answer to – esp with these – so called – each way – good things!Been looking at past results of St Leger. Most have won no further than 12 furlongs as a three year old and all have ran in group 2 company or higher within the past decade, 8 of them being successful at group 3 level or higher.
These facts led me to the favorites Sea Moon & Blue Bunting and perhaps the finish will involve these two, but at a huge price Dordogne by Mark Johnson also meets these requirements and could be an interesting each way shot.
Been looking at past results of St Leger. Most have won no further than 12 furlongs as a three year old and all have ran in group 2 company or higher within the past decade, 8 of them being successful at group 3 level or higher.
These facts led me to the favorites Sea Moon & Blue Bunting and perhaps the finish will involve these two, but at a huge price Dordogne by Mark Johnson also meets these requirements and could be an interesting each way shot.
Since making this post Dordogne has ran and won in Turkey and been pulled out of this race. I only thought that at the price he was worth an each way shot. Rumh been supplemented to set the pace hopefully for Blue Bunting and the connections believe that Genius Beast has a chance to make the frame, which is not that far fetched to my workings out. However the number one contender for me is Sea Moon.
All the winners of this race since 1990 had two previous runs prior to the race over 1m4f – all those who hadn’t were beaten, –> Sea Moon (plus other negs)
No girl winner since 1992 –> Blue Bunting
First 2 plenty vulnerable imv
I’ve been on Seville for a long time. Hope they put headgear on him and race prominently. If so he can come back to form. However, will need to be something special to beat an in form Sea Moon.
Value Is EverythingJust been reading the trainers Q&A and SMS appears concerned about the ground etc. The feeling I get is that he exceeded expectations at York. The bare form (OR 103) requires him to improve further on that run to win and you just get the impression that SMS is not convinced he will. His pedigree suggests he will like the trip, but the ground seems to be connexion’s biggest doubt.
I cant recall too many easy winners of the St Leger, but its usually a hard battle up that straight and Sea Moon doesn’t strike me as a battling type of horse.Of course sending out negative vibes is a common ploy by the stable to try and get a better price.
Below my ratings for the first 3 in the betting, the last run of
Census would make him my selection. A quote from Richard Hughes would maybe back this up "I thought we had a Leger runner, but now we have a horse that can win it. He´s a big, raw horse who can only get better and better". – Richard Hughes. At a best price 5’1 he’s got to be a better bet than Sea Moon Surely.Sea Moon 136
Sea Moon 126
Blue Bunting 133
Blue Bunting 114
Blue Bunting 101
Blue Bunting 146
Census 150
Census 98
Census 131
Census 109Venjee
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