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- September 3, 2020 at 17:03 #1499715
Art Power 15/2 with a saver on Hello Youmzain at 7/2 is my play in the race
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September 3, 2020 at 17:50 #1499720Art Power 15/2.
September 3, 2020 at 18:58 #1499731While i’ve said Art Power is on my shortlist for this, this isn’t right surely. 7/2 for a horse with course form at the top level, or 7/1 for a horse that hasn’t near proven it and also ran badly last time?
“getting a price” doesn’t necessarily make him the value over 7-2 by any means.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 3, 2020 at 19:23 #1499734Agree with this, ground was no issue. I’d maybe say course could be excused? Lots of horses don’t enjoy Newmarket and it was his first run there.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 3, 2020 at 20:37 #1499748I have to stick with Art Power. He got taken off his feet in a very decent five furlong contest at York and should find this one a bit easier to deal with. The ground will be softer here which definitely suits and, on balance of his form, 8/1 with Betfair is a decent price.
September 3, 2020 at 21:22 #1499755Andy Holding of Oddschecker has tipped Hello Youmzain he also thought he found the going at Newmarket a bit quick. All about opinions i guess.
September 3, 2020 at 23:05 #1499763Rightly or wrongly, I put more stock in to recent runs at sprint distances.
Summerghand has about 7lb to find, but could conceivably improve a bit, and is clearly bang in form. 25,s seems more than reasonable to me.
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September 4, 2020 at 11:19 #1499784Like you ttc, rightly or wrongly (for win purposes) i can’t resist taking some of the 25/1 on The Tin Man. It’s clear at his age there is no expectation for improvement, and he’s vulnerable to some of the 3yos and anything progressive. However, at 25s the potential for softer ground than he’s encountered so far this season and his course form he’s worth a dabble for me.
I liked Tabdeed and given he’s half his price or shorter doesn’t seem right to me. Yes he’s very unexposed + won snug enough last time, but at Haydock on ground that’s currently soft, it would need to dry for him. I’d say The Tin Man deserves to be closer to him pricewise.
Hello Youmzain should be favourite IMO. Art Power is at a price where i am just not sure he’s value. He’s back to 6 and on a softer surface so he should run much better. He’s looked electric most of the year, but in hindsight is his form lacking?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 4, 2020 at 13:22 #1499806Find it interesting that people believe Art Power was ‘run off his feet’ last time because in my opinion 5f is ok for him.As for me the best figures this colt registered were over the minimum trip at Ascot and the Nunthrope run couldn’t be counted as a true reflection of his ability without considering further evidence.While Saturday’s race will be informative for a Group 1 contest it lacks strength in depth with a number stepping up to this level while others are trying to repair reputations.I also think Tabdeed is a most interesting runner but is still to prove he handles the underfoot conditions but for me shows great promise of going on to better things.
good luck to allSeptember 4, 2020 at 14:05 #1499809No one should be backing Art Power on form Jack. Anyone backing him should be doing so purely on the basis he’s a very lightly raced 3 year old with decent enough but not top form and could easily step Up. I was happy with 8s, but anything less than that and he starts to become no value for me.
I wouldn’t be backing him at 6s. No way Golden Horde should be behind him in the market either, if he keeps drifting I’ll back him as well.
I agree BCK, was nothing to do with 5f he just didn’t run any sort of race. It can be ignored for me.
It’s not a bad renewal on ratings though, still 4 Grp1 winners in it and two runners up. I think it’s a decent enough race. Certainly average at least for this race.
September 4, 2020 at 14:08 #1499810Frenchy + BCK 5f at Ascot isn’t like 5f anywhere else…..ask Blue Point and Battaash.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 4, 2020 at 14:11 #1499813Clearly Frenchy, but even just looking at the form without trying to be too critical, you could question what he’s beat quite easily. Yes he’s won nicely and i think back to 6f on softer going will see him much better, i’m finding it hard to work out a price i’d back him at. Maybe 8s but it would be touch and go.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 4, 2020 at 14:32 #1499814Yes but the point is it was nothing to do with the distance at York he just didn’t run. Would’ve been the same over 6f. He probably is better at 6. He’s no value now anyway, not sure 8 will come back.
Anyone looking to bet right now without having done so should keep waiting as DOD is drifting out to a really backable price even if people don’t have full belief in him. He’s got the best form in the race on ratings, is the highest rated and he’s proven over 6f. Looks like he’s in career best form and what he did last time out is being somewhat ignored now. Won a Grp2 by 7L had the third 11.5!!L back. The second then went on to frank the form winning a Grp3 by 3.5L from a previous Listed winner.
Keep it simple people surely!!
September 4, 2020 at 14:49 #1499819Plus he only had one crack of the whip in the Hungerford, plus he’s drawn right next to HY, whose going to give him the perfect toe into the race.
September 4, 2020 at 16:17 #1499826Keeping it simple is to stick with the youngsters, not a horse who isnt far off his 7th birthday and not won a group 1 sprint.
September 4, 2020 at 16:48 #1499829Haha maybe. Fine margins though , he is a whisker away from being a dual Group1 diamond jubilee winner , that can’t just be ignored because he didn’t win
September 4, 2020 at 16:58 #1499831I backed him last year in this to be fair as the highest rated horse and i was sharing some similar enthusiasm to you that you are for him this year but even on soft he weren’t quick enough. So me swerving him back in this again is understandable.
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