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Welfare of the horse for sure. I’d just be asking him questions about why he doesn’t have him ready.
Trainers always come out with excuses like this, I’m sure some mystery blood test result will show something. You never hear a trainer say “I’ve not got him ready in time, my fault!”
It’s disappointing for us for sure. If there is actually a genuine issue with horse then all is forgiven, but I am cynical when I hear these things just before big races!
Jack I did just write this to be fair!….
That’s not necessarily down to his ability as a horse trainer in fairness to him, so that was unfair of me to write it like that.This is what I read on Sporting Life website last night that set alarm bells ringing and could be a big part of his problem.
Teal revealed Oxted had to be treated for an ulcer on his epiglottis after his victory in the July Cup.
“He had a little wind op after Newmarket,” he said.
“He had an ulcer on the back of his throat. We had that removed. He was scoped after the July Cup, so he must have run with it. It was a simple procedure.”
Sure Roger Teal is doing the right thing for the horse and he has been upfront with Oxted followers..what more could he do?
Haven’t bet yet but in Bobby’s Ante Post comp took…
Dream Of Dreams 4/1
Glen Sheil 20/1 Each WayHollie Doyle must have a great chance of landing this on Glen Shiel or at least placing..
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I have to side with Jac (Triptych) here, I think that Dream Of Dreams looked very decent last
time out at Newbury. If he maintains that form I think he should win. I took the 4/1
(in ante post thread). Art Power is a horse I like a lot, but that was a poor run from
him last time out at York. I’d like to see that he was back on track before taking a
chance with him, but he’s a danger if he bounces back.I’ll go with two here, and I’ll also take a chance on The Tin Man. Brando hasn’t been too impressive, so might as well have another.
Don’t think he’s totally out of this, but I’ll bet him just for the win.
Brando 25’s EW
The Tin Man 20’sAdded Art Power as a saver earlier this afternoon.
We should move on from the Roger Teal conversation, they’ve done the right thing by the horse and that’s the main thing. Possibly won’t see him again until next year now.
Race loses a bit of its intrigue but that’s life. Dream of Dreams won’t get a better chance than this. Could be now or never for him.
I cannot for the life of me fathom why Dream Of Dreams is ahead of the defending champion in the betting for this one, particularly when Hello Youmzain defeated Dream Of Dreams at Ascot when both ran their races, no excuses. Of those towards the head of the market Hello Youmzain has by far and away the least to prove in my book. Gut feeling is though that he needs a stiff test of the trip (potentially bought on by softer ground) having won this last year on softer, then at Ascot and running so well over 6.5F at Deauville, and as such I’d be less keen the more the ground dries out and leaning more towards Golden Horde with the 3 year olds doing so well in this (5 of last 6 winners).
No shocks here that will suit plenty of the runners. It does make me consider Art Power even more, Tin man + possibly Forever in Dreams now.
Not 100% Tabdeed is on the shortlist now.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Art Power loves bottomless ground his trainer said yesterday I believe. Tabdeed is in trouble now I’d say
Is Art Power a group 1 horse? Didn’t fancy him at York going up 2 grades. He looked out of his comfort zone in the race. We will see tomorrow I guess if the different ground and trip aids him.
It’s a big question mark for Art Power definitely. But he didn’t run any sort of race whatsoever in the Nunthorpe. That clearly isn’t his running. He sort of fell out the gate and was never travelling at any point. It wasn’t like he ran to his level, but wasn’t quite up to Grp1 standard. So I think we can just draw a line through it personally.
He’s got to go and prove now he belongs at Grp1 level, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he did it. He’s got a decent and dangerous lightly-raced profile.
Hello Youmzain is a horse I’ve backed this year in the Diamond Jubilee, but I actually thought he’d run a bit better than he did there. He bolted out the gate and was well clear after 2 furlongs, that’s why he won in the end to me. The others worked too hard to catch him up and he outstayed them. He’s very solid, but he does just look to have a certain ceiling of ability. He won’t bolt out the gate and go clear in every Grp1.
Course form is there though, he looks almost nailed on to run his race. I just suspect he will find one or two too good.
Not over 5f on good ground not for me. Haydock won’t be that though, and as we know with the 6f sprinters, there ain’t much in there.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!After a 245 day layoff its understandable he was feeling it somewhat at the business end having done the donkey work.
Then I would’ve expected him to run a little better at Newmarket than he did. His best 4 runs. 118,121, 121, 119. Appears to be his limit. That might be enough of course. I backed him antepost though, so happy with 6s as saver. Not sure he’s value now
Ground was fast at Newmarket, I didn’t fancy him there. Back on an easier surface Saturday.
At least with Art power you are getting a price this time to find out if he can step up
He got run off his feet last time and at this stage he’s my likeliest selection
I just need to decide whether its better to back him e/w or back him straight win and have a saver on something else
I’m leaning towards the latter
Wasn’t fast. It was completely overwatered then it rained, meeting started on Soft ground, then supposedly it dried up to Good by this race. Maybe it did just, times were decent. Certainly wasn’t fast though. No excuses for Hello Youmzain on that front. He isn’t a mud lark. He won the Sandy Lane on GF. He can go on anything.
It’s possible he can just be excused that run, but it’s the hardest sprint to win on ratings the July Cup, so therefore arguably the best sprint and he was beaten 4 lengths. That puts the suspicion in me, that he has a limit of ability.
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