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I watched the BBC 6pm news and like nearly all people I was slightly
relieved to hear that the Russians have indicated less bombardments
on Kyiv, although we will see how that works out. What I was also
expecting to see reported on was this story breaking yesterday, whether
true or not, that several Russian prisoners were shot in the leg whilst
being interviewed by Ukrainians. Is it Propeganda by the Russians? possibly,
or is it true, possibly. Either way it sends a bad message that a bias is
shown by the BBC. You could be certain that if the Russians had captured
Ukranian soldiers and shot them in the leg whilst interviewing them it would
have been the 1st story on the news.I don’t know if it is true or false, but the very fact that the
Ukranian Government has said……..Ukraine has vowed to investigate after graphic videos emerged purporting to show the
horrific abuse of Russian prisoners of war, including some who were shot in the legs.“The government is taking this very seriously, and there will be an immediate investigation,”
senior presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said Sunday, the Washington Examiner reported.“We are a European army, and we do not mock our prisoners. If this turns out to be real, this is
absolutely unacceptable behavior,” President Volodymyr Zelensky’s adviser added.
————————————————————————————————–So it’s not being swept under the carpet by the Ukraine Government, that speaks well
for them, but I think it’s a story which should have been reported and updated. when
you are aware of potential serious incidents, which don’t get the air time it deserves,
it makes you question the so called impartiality of the BBC.Big G, have you seen what the BBC Chairman, Richard Sharp has come out with:
BBC chair suggests public may overstate appetite for impartial news
Richard Sharp casts doubt on coverage public wants, saying 99% also claimed ‘they wash their hands after going to the loo’Is it boredom or is there some hope to be taken for this topic to be sliding down the page?
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Do you really think the baltic states are going to “demilitarise” (whatever that really means)? Not a chance
I don’t particularly like the idea of various states sitting down and deciding the borders of a sovereign nation. Will the UK accept the EU and the US dictating the fate of Northern Ireland or can you imagine France accepting the uk having a say in Corsica’s independence?
Just as when labour was run by the tankie pro Putin jew hating faction, it will not win when its dictated to by the Owen Jones faction
A huge number of voters have no time for Johnson but they dont want crap like this
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/starmer-unable-to-say-whether-a-woman-can-have-a-penis-hbbw2sspw
Colin, thanks for that it’s an incredible statement from Richard Sharp
the Chair of the BBC. His further statement “the reality of what people
actually click on or watch increasingly leans towards provocative and
sensational content, making it harder for the BBC to judge whether its
output is connecting with audiences.”So here’s something for him to chew over. The BBC apparantly prides itself
on impartiality, as per this last November from Tim Davie the Director
General of the BBC………restoring trust in the BBC’s impartiality was his first policy objective. With
one eye on securing a future licence fee funding settlement with a hostile government,
he suggested the corporation needed to be “free from political bias” and shed the idea
that its output represented a narrow viewpoint.Maybe they should get their heads together and decide what the BBC wants to be,
just another opinionated News source, such as any newspaper with it’s own agenda,
or the “Bastion of Truth” that it has set itself up to be.Here’s a tip for the BBC, send your thousands of news reporters out to uncover
the truth, or as much can be found, in a situation and report it to us ignorant
masses without bias. The BBC come under a fair bit of flack, I’ve just done it
myself in the post above re the apparant shooting of Russian soldiers being
interviewed by Ukraine soldiers which received scant attention from them. Does
this fly in the face of what the British Public want, do we only want to hear of
Russian attrocities, of which there are plenty.This is a slippery slope for the BBC, watered down news to fit what THEY think
the public want makes them no better than any editorial rag on a news stand.“Do you really think the baltic states are going to “demilitarise” (whatever that really means)? Not a chance
I don’t particularly like the idea of various states sitting down and deciding the borders of a sovereign nation. Will the UK accept the EU and the US dictating the fate of Northern Ireland or can you imagine France accepting the uk having a say in Corsica’s independence”?
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No! “various states” do not “decide the borders of a sovereign nation”. Borders would not be changed, only that the area is demilitarised on both sides of that border for X number of miles.
Of course those neighbouring countries would need to agree to any demilitarised zone for any demilitarised zone to work, Clive. That’s the point. If neighbouring countries did not agree to it then there is no demilitarised zone. Russia would need to give cast iron assurances (a guarantee) in public, with its own population being told what it is agreeing to… And NATO give a guarantee they’d come in to those neighbouring countries if Russia invaded them.
I do think it is possible (not easy, not probable, but “possible”) for neighbouring countries to agree to a “demilitarised zone” because all of them would as a result have the safeguard of (not officially but) effectively being a member of NATO.
Value Is EverythingNo point though. Baltics will not even consider it and no one in their right minds trusts Russia to keep to any agreement ever
Russia would know if invading any neighbouring country then NATO would come in.
An effective deterrent.Value Is Everythingit was inevitable that some would quickly seize upon Ukrainian soldiers “shooting Russian soldiers in the legs” for “balance”
For balance we need proportion…. so where shall we start ??
How long do you think it will take the BBC to list out the atrocities committed by Russians each day before we get to a poor little Russian solider getting a bullet in the leg?
well?
Frankly I couldn’t care less if they had shot them in the head and I’m having great fun laughing out loud at this lovely video
https://twitter.com/CyberUa11/status/1506966904459649024?s=20&t=6dsJ8q6Q-AL6K0oMcnIQnQ
“No! ‘various states’ do not ‘decide the borders of a sovereign nation’.”
Huh? History shows otherwise. Just a couple examples:
1. The Potsdam Agreement, 1945. (the birth of the Soviet Union, and its satellites)
2. the partitioning of India in 1947 (i.e. giving establishment of Pakistan)
3. the map of the British Empire (pre-WWII)FFS
Thats history
Since the UN it is NOT the right of other states to decide others boundaries
Understood?
‘A huge number of voters have no time for Johnson but they dont want crap like this’
Labour, and indeed everyone else, would do well do to avoid all this ‘culture war’ drivel. It’ll be pushed by the Tories as a distraction from the general pig’s ear they have made of just about everything they have touched.
I posted in this thread in error
Its ok to say “avoid” it but attitudes towards these issues are indicative of a wider world view.
Clive…..
It was inevitable that some would quickly seize upon Ukrainian soldiers “shooting Russian
soldiers in the legs” for “balance”For balance we need proportion…. so where shall we start ??
How long do you think it will take the BBC to list out the atrocities committed by Russians
each day before we get to a poor little Russian solider getting a bullet in the leg?well?
Frankly I couldn’t care less if they had shot them in the head and I’m having great fun laughing out loud at this lovely video
………………………………………………………………………………………………….Well maybe the new “tailored to the public” BBC is right up your street Clive. If you don’t
think several Russians being tortured during interrogation by Ukranian Troops by being shot
in the legs (not verified) is news worthy then that’s up to you. Personally I like to think
that the news is the news, no matter how unsavoury and whether it’s about the good guys or
the bad guys.Perhaps Richard Sharp, the Chair of the BBC is thinking of people like yourself Clive
when he writes“the reality of what people actually click on or watch increasingly leans
towards provocative and sensational content, making it harder for the BBC
to judge whether its output is connecting with audiences.”Personally I’d prefer them to ignore what people want and just report the news
as the news, but then that’s just me as I’ve tended to seek out truth throughout
my life. I think your view is sad Clive, I’d rather nobody committed war crimes,
but where evidence suggests they may have, then they should be investigated.I’m glad the Ukranian Government seem to hold the same view……….
“We are a European army, and we do not mock our prisoners. If this turns out to be real, this is
absolutely unacceptable behavior,” President Volodymyr Zelensky’s adviser added.”“Since the UN it is NOT the right of other states to decide others boundaries
Understood?”
Understood. Loud and clear! Oh, BTW, could you please remind me whether or not the UN was in effect when Putin annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Oops, I forgot. That’s history FFS!
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First of all dont patronise when you dont even start too get my point.
For instance, 300 including women and children slaughtered in a theatre in Maruiopol and you are asking for that to have the equivalent coverage of a few bullets in the legs of Russian soldiers?
Give it a rest
And turk. Annexation of Crimea is not recognised by the UN. You didn’t know that?
You seem to have some difficulty in understanding what I meant by “the right to”.
Give up if I were you
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