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If it comes doubt any invasion will be until the Olympics is all but over. However, is worrying.
Times like this we should be glad Boris is PM.
I know, hard to believe isn’t it.But just imagine if it were Putin’s pal Jeremy Corbyn.
Value Is EverythingActually the thought of Johnson sabre rattling is terrifying me at the moment. Especially as he’s desperate to divert attention away from the Gray enquiry. He’s already done a photoshoot standing next to a map and then looking serious leaning on a chair. And is saying he will deploy our troops. I’m quite envious of anyone that feels the safety of this country is in capable hands. Because I don’t.Still hold him responsible for Nazanin’s continuing incarceration because he, as usual, opened his mouth before engaging his brain.
It is worrying, but the Ukrainians don’t seem worry hope they right myself I recall this song on the matter.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.Moehat Wrote: “Actually the thought of Johnson sabre rattling is terrifying me at the moment. Especially as he’s desperate to divert attention away from the Gray enquiry. He’s already done a photoshoot standing next to a map and then looking serious leaning on a chair. And is saying he will deploy our troops. I’m quite envious of anyone that feels the safety of this country is in capable hands”.
Oh Moehat, are the left wing press in overdrive again?
It is certainly in more “capable hands” than would’ve been the case under Putin’s puppet Corbyn.
Seems as though you’re scaremongering again. By saying Johnson “is saying he will deploy troops”, you make it sound as if they’ll be deployed in Ukraine. Only UK troops there are to teach Ukraine troops how the weapons supplied work. ie UK fighting troops are NOT in Ukraine and will NOT be in Ukraine whatever happens. Fighting troops being deployed are to strengthen NATO borders, Ukraine is NOT in NATO.Jeez, Putin puts hundreds of thousands of Russian troops on the border and you expect no strengthening of our NATO borders?
Do you want us to invite the Russians in? Putin is the one “Sabre rattling”.Value Is EverythingI would imagine that Tom Tugendhat and Tobias Elwood are as worried about Johnson being in charge as I am. And Corbyn is irrelevant because he isn’t in charge. The crazy clown like man child is. I’ve spoken to both Conservative politicians and party members over the past few years and, believe me, they despise him as much as I do.
I worry about anything Boris touches ….it normally ends in disaster , the Russians are aware we are assisting with weapons and training troops , no doubt we,ll see an increase in cyber attacks on us , but hey Boris can try and deflect talk away from his lying , sometimes it’s best to stand in the background Boris , NATO is there for a reason , if Putin really wanted to go in he would have by now , feels sim to the cuban missile crisis , hopefully some calm heads and both parties can take a step back and move from the borders
“Times like this we should be glad Boris is PM.”
Hmm, not sure I agree.
Corbyn would probably be very ineffective in a situation like this, but he is no longer the alternative.
And historically – Harold Wilson (who avoided British involvement in Vietnam) aside – Labour PMs have been just as obsequious towards the wishes of USA Presidents as any Tory PM.
Look at Blair and Bush (who was a Republican!)
I’m sure Johnson is glad of this potential conflict – it’s a massive distraction and might just save his job, a bit like the Falklands crisis saved Thatcher and won her the 1983 Election as IIRC she was behind in the polls before she ordered the sinking of the General Belgrano.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Ian there is no way back for Boris , he,s merely delaying the inevitable , the backbenchers will take him down sooner or later , then he he can go off and do his 100k speaking gigs
Whataboutery again from Ginge. If Corbyn had been in charged he’d have done this, that and t’other. He isn’t in charge but the buffoon Johnson is and he’s makes a balls up of 95% of what he does, so I’m not confident on this one.
I doubt there will be any invasion. Putin is an authoritarian thug but he is not a fool. He has a far better grasp of realpolitik than Johnson or Biden, who looks like he does not even know what time of day it is and would struggle to find Ukraine on a map (although his son knows, apparently).
“Fighting troops being deployed are to strengthen NATO borders.”
Should they be NATO’s borders? Russia was given a promise that NATO would not take over Eastern Europe. That promise has been broken. NATO now regularly conducts military exercises close to the Russian border, about as far from St Petersburg as London is from Birmingham.
Is Russia just supposed to accept this without protest? This is a country which has no naturally defensible borders and has been invaded several times in its history, the last time within living memory and at a cost of millions of lives. St Petersburg endured one of the deadliest sieges in history.
We might dismiss such concerns but they are very real and frightening to Russians. If NATO keeps behaving in such an insensitive way, it is hardly surprising that Russia will react.
I wonder what America’s reaction would be if a hostile force started to complete military exercises in northern Mexico or southern Canada?
You worry about Corbyn, Ginger, I worry about if Trump was in charge in this situation. Unlike Corbyn, Trump might be running again next presidency.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.Trump did not start any wars when he was President. If anything he strikes me as being from the isolationist side of American politics, which never went away even during the post-war era which America has dominated until recently.
Trump Strikes me as a Idiot, drink bleach to fight covid indeed.
As for the wars, I think he was behind the storming of the Whitehouse and the attempt behind the threat to Mike Pence life.My feeling is he may not start a war, but he will certainly finish it with that nuclear button should America feel threaten.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.I’d certainly rather we have another Conservative leader, but rather have Johnson than Corbyn which was my original point…
And Corbyn is relevant because had Johnson not won the last general election we’d now be under a Corbyn led Labour government.
Trump’s close relationship with Putin (I think Putin may well have something over Trump) means Trump would’ve done nothing to stop Putin invading Ukraine. But having said that, Trump was (could be again) inconsistent and unpredictable. Not what you want in a global “leader”.
Biden is not a great public speaker which (and I speak from personal experience) isn’t surprising for someone who stammers. Think his foreign and defence polices are sound.
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Do you want us to invite the Russians in? Putin is the one “Sabre rattling”.
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