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“Here is a recap of the Ukraine situation, for those choosing to reject propaganda and continue seeking truth:
December 1994, Ukraine agrees to give up its nuclear arsenal in return for security guarantees from the US, UK, France, China and Russia.
February 2014, Russia invades and subsequently annexes Crimea, President Obama does next to nothing. War through weakness.
July 2019, Trump admin withholds $250 million in military aid to Ukraine to apply pressure to investigate alleged corruption by Hunter and Joe Biden.
February 2022, Russia invades a weakened Ukraine, world expects Zelenskyy to flee and Kyiv to fall within days. Ukrainians fight bravely for 3+ years, inflict hundreds of thousands of casualties on Russian army, weaken Putin politically.
U.S. has sent ~$70 billion in outdated military equipment to Ukraine since start of war, providing opportunity for U.S. military to modernize its weaponry. We’ve sent an additional $30+ billion in budget support, $75 billion in ancillary appropriations related to war.
~50,000 Ukrainians have died defending their homeland, protecting U.S. and Western interests in the process. Meanwhile, the U.S. President and V.P. are calling democratically-elected Zelenskyy a dictator and berating him in Oval Office in pursuit of a financial payoff.
The U.S. should be thanking Ukrainians, who have fought for our common interests with only modest financial support from a country with a ~$30 trillion GDP.
America can and will reclaim its backbone again soon, with better policy and messaging from common sense moderates.
^Slava Ukraina.^”
This from Anthony Scaramucci. I must admit that I didn’t know the background to the war.The trump administration are actually banning certain news corporations from the the white house … and he has the cheek to call Zeleknsky a dictator , I said previously only the Russians can bring down Putin …. The US will have to bring Trump down , I really believe some where down the line the truth on what hold Putin has on Trump will come out and then America will have to act ….. If you put a convicted felon in charge you can’t be surprised if the **** hits the fan
Matron ” I think Starmer was lucky with Vance on Thursday – I thought he would have given
him a harder grilling.”It’s called Politics Matron. Vance didn’t give him a harder grilling because
he was singing Trump’s song. I don’t care if it seemed demeaning or that the
state visit was a blatent, as was mentioned by Cork (I’m with you on the rest Cork),
was no more that paying homage to the Court Of King Trump, it’s politics. When you
are on the left foot, and the other guy is holding a nap hand, you use whatever
negotiating skills you have, bribes and all. Zelensky may be a very brave man, and
strikes me he would be prepared to die for his country. Admirable as it may be, do
thousands 0f his countrymen and women have to die because he doesn’t have the ability
to engage in a political sphere and lacks the ability to negotiate.All he has done is put the world at risk. This is the first time I considered that a
3rd world war moved from a concern to a significant possibility.Trump doesn’t want to help Ukraine , he just wants to look as if he does while he gets his Nobel prize and mineral deal , Zelensky knows this so those saying he has a poor hand and heshould just take it … His only hand is Europe and he knows it
Exactly HDLG. All in it for himself even though it will mean Putin getting off the hook.
It’s when people like Trump is in charge shows just how powerful the US Presidency can be.
Very dangerous when a dictator is in office.
All he has done is put the world at risk. This is the first time I considered that a
3rd world war moved from a concern to a significant possibility.There is only one man to blame if there is a third world war and that’s Putin.
“I didn’t know the background to the war.”
While not excusing Russia’s illegal invasion and act of war, there is a lot more to this whole situation than the simplistic “Ukraine good, Russia bad” narrative peddled by the media.
Something which can be guaranteed is plenty of people will be making serious money out of it, as they do from all wars. It is why the Military Industrial Complex is so enthusiastic about them.
I doubt Zelensky is down to his last hryvnia, either.
Various sources agree that about 40% of the country’s critical-mineral reserves are held in Russian-occupied territory including a large untapped deposit of the Rare Earths that Trump is so eager to get his hands on
This being the case it strikes me that Trump would be quite content to allow Russia to keep the occupied territories providing he can strike a deal with Putin to jointly fund the development and extraction of the Rare Earth reserves; which due to the inherent difficulty of recovering these metals would be expected to take up to 10 years and a great deal of money just to get the mines operational
A Russia-USA axis to counter China’s hefty dominance of the Rare Earth market ??
Useful info and maps here:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/28/mapping-ukraines-rare-earth-and-critical-minerals
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/2/26/us-ukraine-critical-minerals-deal-what-we-know-so-far
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/know-ukraines-mineral-wealth-rcna194070“While not excusing Russia’s illegal invasion and act of war, there is a lot more to this whole situation than the simplistic “Ukraine good, Russia bad” narrative peddled by the media.”
So what did Ukraine do that made Russia invade? Nothing as far as we know. It’s all on Putin, there is no excuse.
there is a lot more to this whole situation than the simplistic “Ukraine good, Russia bad” narrative peddled by the media
Indeed. Although things have undoubtedly improved since Zelenskyy took office it should be remembered that until then Ukraine was infested with corruption; and though ameliorated is unlikely to have disappeared
“Ukraine not too bad, Russia bad” seems more accurate
“Ukraine not too bad, Russia bad” seems more accurate.
I agree. But unfortunately if you stray just a millimetre outside of the official narrative on social media, you are immediately accused of being a “Putin Apologist” who “wants Russia to win”.
Another aspect, geopolitically, is that if Trump does strike up a ‘revised’ relationship with Putin’s Russia, he ends up (potentially) driving a wedge between the ‘other 3’, namely China, Iran and North Korea.
Trump’s certainly made no friendly ‘moves’ towards the ‘other 3’, has he?I havent heard or read any of the journos, strategist communicators, etc infer this, but it’s something i’ve given thought to.
The polarisation of opinion that is so prevalent on, and indeed encouraged by, social media is a not insignificant part of the reason why politics and political debate is so toxic these days.
Very, very few issues are black and white. Much more nuance is required in debate to make it healthier again.
“There is only one man to blame if there is a third world war and that’s Putin.”
Homer there is no doubt that Putin is responsible for us ending up in this situation.
Everyone knows what Putin did but at this point that isn’t the issue. The issue is
stopping the war to save thousands of needless deaths. The only way that is going to
happen is if a deal can be struck that Zelensky and Putin will agree to. If we just
keep the attitude that it’s all Putin’s fault so **** him, then it’s a guarantee that
more lives are going to be lost. HDLG says that ” His only hand is Europe and he knows
it”. He definitely doesn’t know it, and if it ends up with Zelenshy’s only allies being
Europe, unless he gets a deal, he will lose the war.Only yesterday Velensky said “It’s crucial for us to have President Trump’s support.
He wants to end the war, but no one wants peace more than we do,” The USA is the only
force that Putin is concerned about. Europe may try and bolster Zelensky’s defences,
but for how long. They neither have the troops or the money to keep this going for an
extended period, all that will happen is that at best they will keep things as they are.
At worst, if the rest of Europe end up joining with Zelensky in Kiev, you have the certainty
of war.Starmer knows it and will try his best to use his negotiating skills to come to some kind
of truce, hopefully followed by the end of the war. Trump isn’t someone you can bargain with
when he knows he has all the manpower, money and hardware that Zelensky desperately needs.
I don’t even have any issue with Trump discussing the war with Putin, someone should have
done it a long time ago. If Zelensky were to sit facing Putin, how do you think that one
would turn out. I reckon the Oval Office spat, would have been just a warm up. What can
Zelensky say to Putin? “If you don’t take your troops out of Ukraine we will carry on with
the war”? I doubt that would have Putin quaking in his boots.If Zelensky can’t swallow his pride and get Trump back on side, he is fighting a losing
battle. He always was without the help of the Americans. Diplomacy, negotiate and keep
the heid is his only way out of this. If he loves his people as much as he says he does,
and I’ve no doubt that is the case, he has to go, cap in hand if necessary, and no matter
how repugnant that is to him, sign a deal.If anyone has got any other idea how Zelensky is going to get out of this, I’d love to hear it.
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